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AIBU?

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AIBU to think he's a bit controlling or is he BR saying I am too self centred?

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SilentService · 29/04/2015 21:10

AIBU to think he’s a controlling ARSE....

Been dating New Man for a year, it’s not always been easy but mostly great. I think I’m now at limit and need to end it.

  • In conversation NM will say ‘x happened to me todayl’….I’ll often respond, after hearing the problem/his story , with ‘oh god, how awfuI/funny/brilliant I know that feeling it was like when xyz happened to me/my friend/my Co worker’ in attempt to empathise and acknowledge , NM responds ‘are you competing with me?’.
  • At a party NM went out to get a drink from the kitchen and came back in mid way thru mutual friend recounting a story, and talked over friend, I gently said ‘shhh friend is talking, he’ll be finished in a mo’, NM gave me silent treatment for rest of eve for ‘dismissing’ him but gave no explanation of his silence until the next day, just walked back to mine in silence and went to bed without a word to me.
  • I have annual trip away with friends coming up . NM wanted to come along + his DS. Six months ago I said ‘the more the merrier’ envisaging NM would camp alongside the families (inc. mine) going. No, NM wanted to be included as a part of my party but has never taken his DS camping before. I am in routine of camping regularly with my DC and so would be in own tent and so forth (and no room in tent for NM + his DS) NM said this means I am rejecting him as don’t want to share a tent with him/be close to him. I don’t want to feel responsible for NM and his DS all weekend, my own DC are quite enough to keep me occupied. NM now saying I clearly didn’t want him there so am rejecting him so I should never have indicated that it may be ok to come. He’s not coming along.
  • On recent outing with NM his DS and my DC I mentioned the trip to my DC and got an earful “how do you think my DS felt hearing you talk about your trip he’s not invited on?” (isn’t it up to NM to arrange camping trips with his DS if he wishes, not make me feel like it’s up to me organise and arrange them?)
  • Discussing poss joint trip with NM and all DC in the school summer hols, location picked out that is near where some friends of mine live. I said if we went to that location I might stop in with friends (friends who NM has said he’d not be interested in meeting) for lunch or overnight on way back, got “how could you do that to my DS – he’d see you going off on another holiday without him”.
  • Due to DC custody arrangments seeing NM in the week usually means me going to his place, if I stay over I have to leave early to beat traffic in the morning. NM has a physically exhausting job and is a lark to my nightowl. Sometimes he goes to bed very early and I want to stay up so will say I will stay and chat/watch movie til he’s asleep then go home so as not to disturb his sleep or disrupt mine by leaving at 5.30am.There is also the issue that when NM has his DS 90% of the time DS comes into NM’s bed in middle of night and I feel awkward being there too. This is also being regarded as rejection of NM by me.
  • NM is suspicious about me chatting to my friends over social media (Whatsapp/FB Messenger etc) as he’s convinced I’m just slagging him off to them.

Reading that back makes me go ‘red flags ahoy…run for hills’….but NM manages to make me feel like I am the unreasonable, uncaring heartless cow. Am I?

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SilentService · 30/04/2015 12:02

The replies are so helpful thank you. Comments re my behaviour noted (I do mainly listen not just butt in with anecdotes, I try to listen, respond, help as appropriate....). Poss I am being U.

He adores me and wants marriage, baby etc. I'm just not sure or certain enough for that kind of commitment now, I want a relationship but also some separate space and life outside of that.

FWIW we did do a holiday overseas altogether recently. My camp trip is with school and playgroup parents who NM and his DS don't know. I would truly fret that he was not enjoying himself and him feeling included all weekend. Selfishly perhaps.

Much thinking & reflection to do. Thank you all.

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shewept · 30/04/2015 19:32

He is cling and you don't seem to want the same things.

But tbh, since it's you asking not him, if I was with someone a year and had introduced them to my kids and they wanted to stay some where different on holiday or spend the night of a holiday somewhere else, i would feel pretty rejected. Especially since he doesn't know anyone. Surely staying elsewhere will only isolate him more. I think, really, you don't want him to cramp your style and be clingy while you are there. You know it will spoil the trip for you.

The first point on your op...you probably think your are sympathizing, but it comes across as competition.

It was a bit insensitive to mention the trip in front of his dc, because they are probably disappointed. Kids don't always think logically. It's not hard to not mention it, so his dc aren't upset.

I am not saying you are wrong as such. Just that I think you are different people, wanting different things.

SilentService · 30/04/2015 23:10

What I left out:

  • he has a history of anxiety and depression
  • he has a history of habitual drug use
  • he moved in with me for 3 months to get 'clean' and is now 5 months drug free
  • he asked me to buy him a tent for camping trip
  • he has referred to himself as my husband (my divorce from ex still in progress)
  • he asked me not to text/message him much as it's "stressful"
  • he is frequently critical of my parenting
  • he booked a weeks hol with his ds the week we had penciled in for a kid free holiday together but I only found this out via a public F book post.
  • he has alienated some of my friends by being rude to them and name-calling and being aggressive (not physically) with them
  • he accuses me of fancying anyone I talk to including friends partners.
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Limer · 30/04/2015 23:14

RUN AWAY NOW!!!

Mrsstarlord · 30/04/2015 23:17

And you are with him because?....

You really don't seem to like him very much.

FarFromAnyRoad · 30/04/2015 23:18

After reading your last post - and having forced my jaw back up! - I have to ask what you see in this specimen? He sounds like an unstable nightmare and I'm sure I'm not wrong in thinking you're always going to be the parent in this relationship. You really need this level of fucked upness in a partner?

Fairenuff · 30/04/2015 23:20

If you live together, why on earth wouldn't you camp together? This relationship sounds very confusing.

SilentService · 30/04/2015 23:24

We don't live together, he moved in temporarily.

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OTheHugeManatee · 30/04/2015 23:27

OK I take it all back after your massive drip feed you should RUN FOR THE HILLS.

VelvetRose · 30/04/2015 23:29

Ummmm....then I think you know the answer! Yes, definitely time to split I would say.

The anecdote thing....I do that too. I also like it if someone empathises with me in that way. It's like them saying "I understand how you feel, I felt like that too".

FarFromAnyRoad · 30/04/2015 23:30

Ok. So are you going to tell us why exactly you're not planning to end this as a matter of urgency? Do you think you can fix him?

Fairenuff · 30/04/2015 23:35

That wasn't a drip feed Manatee, that was the whole bucket on top of the door frame and we walked right into it.

SilentService · 30/04/2015 23:39

I wanted to be fair to him, mh history, past drug use etc... People make mistakes and have difficult lives. I have tried to overlook, help, support etc. I am clearly a Co dependent fuckwit.

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BestZebbie · 30/04/2015 23:40

I'm afraid I think a lot of the problem in the situations in your OP is you, so YABU in those respects (other than the sulking, but he may have done that feeling that was better than picking a fight at the time or something).
On the other hand, you really don't seem that into him or as if you have that much respect for him/see him as an equal, so YANBU to consider cutting your losses.

With regard to the camping in particular, I think he was entirely reasonable and normal to assume you'd be going as a four, a pair of adults and your two DC all as one family unit, so if you didn't think that it was on you to explain that you didn't want him/weren't planning to spend time or energy on him and his DC during the trip when he asked to join you!

SilentService · 30/04/2015 23:42

Him 1 DS, me 3 DS + 1x 4 man tent.

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shewept · 01/05/2015 06:09

Sorry OP you moved a drug user in with you to get clean?

He wasn't already living with you and you moved him in with you and your kids to get clean?

If a woman was already living with a man and discovered he had a problem and helped him get clean, but i can't see why you would move him into your family home.

I don't even see why you brought that up though. You chose to move him in rather than end the relationship. Sounds like you are coming up with excuses to say why yanbu.

With that epic drip feed of information I don't see why you're with him. But still can see his point on things I said before. You chose to continue seeing him so, yes I would expect to spend the holiday together etc.

MsRaspberryJam · 01/05/2015 06:31

Is there anything you actually like about him?

Duckdeamon · 01/05/2015 06:32

Why the drip feeding?

Why the fuck did you let him move on to quit drugs at such an early stage of the relationship?!

Duckdeamon · 01/05/2015 06:33

Anyway, you seem unhappy with him and don't need any reason other than that to end it.

FeijoaSundae · 01/05/2015 06:42

Oh, for goodness sake.

I read your OP and thought you sounded lovely and he sounded deeply whiny and annoying.

And now, drip-feed later, I'm just wondering what chain of events leads someone to think that life with someone like this is better than being alone, with one's own lovely DC. Confused

Dump and run woman, dump and run! There is nothing to discuss.

Duckdeamon · 01/05/2015 06:45

The silent treatment thing in your OP seemed a red flag, but there are many many red flags in your latest post: run for the hills! And adjust your boundaries if or when you meet someone else.

FenellaFellorick · 01/05/2015 06:52

Well, if you wanted to turn the tide in your favour you did it! Grin that list is shocking. Nobody is worth a list like that. Nobody.

in your op, he sounds like a needy, whiny, mardy arse. (with the exception of your story top trumps. That is really irritating. Stop it at once. Grin ) In your list he sounds like someone you want to run away from so fast there's a sonic boom.

peggyundercrackers · 01/05/2015 06:57

tbh i think you sound worse that him, he should have dumped you.

1 - you were rude - if someones talking you listen - you sound like one of these people who has done everything everyone else has but done it better...

  1. you were rude - imagine a woman coming on here and saying my DH said shh while someone else was talking - controlling much?
  2. why would he stay on his own? your a couple and you go away camping but want him to stay on his own? weird.
  3. the friends thing - why would you go off with someone else whilst on holiday with your OH? sorry open mouthed at that.
  4. yes you do slag him off on social media - your on here slagging him off aren't you?

then you add a while lot of other stuff in to try and justify why you want rid of him an try to blacken his character. so yes point 5 you definitely do.

WilburIsSomePig · 01/05/2015 07:09

Dump him. Right now.

shewept · 01/05/2015 07:13

Peggy makes an excellent point. He says you speak negatively about him. You have done it here when you didn't he the answers you expected, so do you do it in general.

I can't see how you can throw a lot of that list as reasons not to be with him. You can't choose to help someone with their drug and mental health issues and then throw it in a reason to dump him.

If you dumped him for telling people he was you husband, asking you to buy him stuff and being critical of your parenting. That fair enough. But to throw mental health and the fact that he used to be a drug user (which you chose to help him through) back at him isn't fair.

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