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Original poster

To think my brother is a twat for turning down £250 a day?

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WilburIsSomePig · 29/04/2015 18:56

He's been out of work for 8 weeks (he's a contractor). Has been offered a 10 month contract at £250 a day but has turned it down because he 'didn't really fancy the role'. Meanwhile, his lovely wife is working extra hours whenever she can and I'm paying for my DNs' activities every week like karate, horse riding and dance classes. They're lovely kids so I said I could help short term but not so that he could turn down a job and lie on the fucking sofa all day. I'm so angry with him.

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DixieNormas · 29/04/2015 20:30

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Heckler · 29/04/2015 20:31

He's a tosser and should take the job.

eyebags63 · 29/04/2015 20:33

Plus it is nearly always easier to find work if you are already in work.... rather than unemployed. Honestly how can he turn it down in good conscience when his wife is working two jobs to make ends meet.

Un fucking believable.

ToBeeOrNot · 29/04/2015 20:36

Plus it is nearly always easier to find work if you are already in work

As an employed person maybe, as a contractor not so much.

eyebags63 · 29/04/2015 20:38

ToBeeOrNot
So being in the loop doesn't help? I would have thought if you are out working then your 'name' is out there as a business / self employed person. Out of sight out of mind?

Either way unless they are mortgage free and living the high life he should take the job. Even if it is below his normal rate it is still a fair chunk of change.

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WilburIsSomePig · 29/04/2015 20:38

He says he had 4 months salary put aside for this kind of event but my SIL tells me that its nearly all gone already. I'm so cross for her, she's a really lovely woman and she doesn't deserve this shit.

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shewept · 29/04/2015 20:42

how have they spent 4 months salary in 8 weeks, while you are paying for their kids activities?

ToBeeOrNot · 29/04/2015 20:42

It really depends, 8 weeks out is a fairly short amount of time. In my line of work immediate availability, i.e. not in work is often more valued.

e.g. I've missed out on a role that would have started 1 week before my availability

Lweji · 29/04/2015 20:47

I hope she dumps his sorry ass.
And you stop helping out financially. He needs a reality check.

morethanpotatoprints · 29/04/2015 20:52

I think you should tell him what your parents would think if they were still here, or ask if what they'd say.
Let him know what an utter cock he is being.

Mintyy · 29/04/2015 21:01

Almighty tut!

All paye jobs that are advertised are advertised at their pre-tax rate.

So £250 per day is the equivalent of about £60,000 per annum if you assume 4 weeks holiday per year, with the exception of National Insurance and Pension (and pensions are certainly not payable in millions of jobs).

No way can you argue it down to £40k or similar. And even so ... £40k pa is an above average salary. Who the actual fuck turns that down?

An arrogant selfish prick turns it down, I guess.

Mintyy · 29/04/2015 21:03

"I mean it'd the equlivant of 30k a year permie with all the perks and security. My dh says its not worth switching from permie to contractor unless the daily rate double the permie rate."

No it isn't. Don't talk rubbish.

GiddyOnZackHunt · 29/04/2015 21:18

Oh ffs, it's £50 extra a day between £250 and £300. Once you've paid tax on that it would make £30 a day or less difference. He'd rather watch his wife work 4 hours on top of her ordinary job for £30 a day. While he does nothing.

£30 a day. YANBU he's a twat.

TinLizzie · 29/04/2015 21:23

As a contractor (have been for c.8/9 years now), I understand why he's turned it down. However, he's being a bit short-sighted. Firstly, sometimes it's better to take the option of a slightly lower rate for the benefit of longevity (10 months being a reasonably lengthy 1st contract) and secondly, because of the GE, where contracts within the public sector can potentially take a hit, depending on who's voted in (matters not whether he's working in the public sector or not - if those contractors are affected, there's a bigger pool for the private companies to pick from).

That said, April is generally a good time for contractors, as the new annual budgets have been set and there's usually more in the pot and new projects get signed off. Chances are he'll get another offer before long, although he has been pretty stupid not keeping a big enough buffer. I haven't worked since last August, through choice, and I've only just stopped taking a monthly salary (cos I've almost run out of money and I'm changing my life anyway).

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WilburIsSomePig · 29/04/2015 21:32

Well I don't think I've helped because he's not talking to me now anyway for just telling him he was being a selfish prick. The buffer he had was supposed to be for mortgage, bills etc he 'might' have used some of it on the new bike he bought a fortnight ago. I'm fucking speechless.

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Southeastdweller · 29/04/2015 21:36

I think he's a prick and that you're a mug for paying for his kids activities, frankly.

Mintyy · 29/04/2015 21:46

Advise your sil to get herself on to Mumsnet for some relationship advice.

Unfortunately she seems to be married to a wrong 'un.

ENormaSnob · 29/04/2015 21:54

Kill the selfish cunt.

Blarblarblar · 29/04/2015 22:01

ENorma then he'd never make any money

sailoratsea · 29/04/2015 22:06

How old are your nieces? Is he a SAHP?

Lweji · 29/04/2015 22:07

Don't forget to ask for your money back...

TinLizzie · 29/04/2015 22:16

Bike instead of mortgage payments? Yep. He's a dick.

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WilburIsSomePig · 29/04/2015 22:20

Neices are 9 and 5. Lovely little girls who clearly take after their mother. SIL is devastated as she also thought he was desperately looking for work. I don't know what to do to help her and the girls now.

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sanfairyanne · 29/04/2015 22:22

why are you paying for his children's activities though? they have savings put aside, this sounds like a bit of a 'holiday' and he expects to earn more soon? just stop subbing him. self employed short term contracts on a high wage = need to save to cover slack periods

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WilburIsSomePig · 29/04/2015 22:25

I'm paying because he told me that the buffer he had would only cover the mortgage and bills and i believed thay he was 'trying so hard' to get work it wouldnt be for long. Yeah I know, MUG.

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