dear Tom McFly - other people have had children, you know

[ElizabethHoover]

yawns at his youtube shite

Agree Spin! There's a slight bit of hypocrisy here.

Not seen the kid clip yet- but the wedding one was quite vomit inducing.

Nice enough bloke though.

I'm not a hypocrite. I do LIKE pics of other people's children, and pets and am never happier than looking through other people's wedding albums.

This thread makes me sad. I have loved McFly since I was a teenager, have grown up with them (I'm the same age as Dougie). I absolutely loved the video and although I thought Buzz was an idiotic name at first, it has grown on me over the last year.

I absolutely hate seeing pictures/videos of kids, but this one was just so cute. I admit, he is VERY good at building a brand, but he's also VERY good at his job.

I am sad that this video has offended people enough to cause people to make a thread about it. He is a dad who absolutely adores his son, something that is not always blindingly obvious amongst men. If you don't like what he posts, that's fine. You can't please all the people all the time. But don't go sucking the joy out of other people like you have with me.

His baby's giggles are very cute but why does Mr McFly feel the need to share so much private stuff, wedding speech, wife's pregnancy etc. on youtube? Does seem a bit desperate for attention.

Is he a bit of a loose end or something?

He might be as they have just finished a tour.

Its these younguns with their youtube channels and the need to share EVERYTHING

YY young people Mrsjayy. I find the Fletchers ok and would rather read about them than a lot of others.

Is he the one who writes about poo?

We looked at one of his books in Waterstones, something about Dinosaurs going back in time to shit on stuff.

It dwelled a lot on some kind of vegetable induced diarrhoea explosion and made DS feel sick, and he's not the most delicate of flowers when it comes to talking about this kind of thing.

Why do people think that writing some substandard rhyming rubbish that includes the words "pants" or "knickers" or "bums" or "poo" or "wee" guarantees them a children's best seller?

That poor baby is going to have bookshelves filled with poo books.

I liked the wedding speech video, but it could have been improved by being half as short and a one-off.

I think they are adorable

YY Dinosaurs that poop. Bestsellers I think.

I loved the wedding speech and the pumpkin carved baby announcement.

Just so I don't sound totally grumpy, there is another cute baby video doing the rounds on Facebook though, that did make me smile when I saw it.

It's the one of a two month old being given a hearing aid and actually hearing for the ever first time. The look on that baby's face is well worth a teary eye and a smile or two

Dinosaur who pooped are already best sellers. My little nephew adores them and giggles throughout. We have read them at school and they are very popular. In my experience many, if not most tbh, love anything like that.

My two would have liked them when they were little Hula. Mrs F is an author too.

His sister has also just launched her first book as well.

This is how it works these days. YouTube vlogs, Twitter, Instagram updated etc. all part of building your brand, being successful, making money as a celeb.
If you don't like it then don't watch it - simple as that. Tom, giovanna and Carrie all seem lovely and genuine. Why be so negative about it all? Miserable and moany. Leave them alone!!

I think it's a bit depressing that people use their children to 'build their brand'.

I wasn't really aware of 'Brand Fletcher', it's fairly easily avoided if there is one.

He's in a band and she writes books, so where's the brand? IYKWIM.

That's the trouble though Hula.

One or two books about pants or poo, okay, it's a bit funny and the kids laugh it them.

Then everybody jumps on the bandwagon for an easy bestseller about dinosaurs shitting green diarrhoea for several pages and you end up feeling less like you're in the children's section of a bookshop and more like you're visiting that particularly grotty public toilet from Trainspotting.

It's like you don't need a proper story anymore, as long as someone shows their bottom or does a poo on something before the end of the book.

DS (just 6yo and normally keen on this sort of thing, especially if he can laugh in a Minion voice and say "butt") reads a lot of books, we have those dinosaurs and aliens in underpants books (and I hate them) and but there's only so much toilet action a bookshelf can take.

They might have sold well because they have the word poo in them and were marketed well because he's famous, but they're not very good are they? There are better, funnier books out there, even in the 'pants and poo' genre itself.

The Mole Who Knew It Was None Of His Business, for example. That's a book about poo that is actually quite good and funny.

It just seems quite cynical and unoriginal now, as though they thought 'I fancy writing a book, and I know, kids love dinosaurs and poo, so job done. Just need to make it rhyme.'

There are loads of books of this type out there now, and very few of them are good.

I love The Mole Who Knew It Was None Of His Business!

I realise I may be overthinking the poo genre a little

And I have no idea how I managed that strikeout.

He's an inspiration isn't he squoosh

Never give up on a quest for revenge.