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To be so insanely jealous, even though I don't want his life

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SEmyarse · 14/04/2015 07:42

I'm so sick of my brother falling on his feet.

I have 2 brothers. Myself, and the older one have had relatively difficult lives. He's struggled with drug use, and mental health and has often been homeless. My first husband was severely disabled, I was homeless for quite a while, and had to sleep on the floor of the residential home he lived in for several years. When we did eventually get housed together by the council, I had to manage a care package, provide a lot of care myself, look after 2 children and work also. I found it incredibly difficult to provide the daytime care, so chose to do 5 nights per week, this meant getting up at least 10 times in the night to reposition, sometimes staying up all night doing chest physio. I was widowed at the age of 29, and I have remarried. We were rehoused by the council, and were lucky to get a small pleasant terrace in a nice area.

All of this time my younger brother has been living at home. He's the only one who went to uni, which my parents fully funded twice. Although he didn't complete the second one they paid for everything including catering for 7 full years, and a year in Chile. He's been back at home since then and has paid £50 per week to include all bed/board/bills etc. I'm not sure how much he earns, but he laughed his head off fairly recently. Somehow the figure of 20k was mentioned, and he thought it hilarious that I thought he might be earning this much, so I can only assume significantly less. He works fairly low hours, teaching children's languages classes after school etc.

He has had 2 fiancees since living at home. The first one was apparently great until she made it clear that she didn't want to live with them, and had her own career aspirations as a midwife. Now he's engaged again and I'm finding it physically sickening how mum keeps telling me how fantastic she is for him because she's such a good cook and housekeeper. 'He needs looking after, you know, he won't even make his own coffee'.

The lady in question seems lovely, if shy and quiet. She was very lucky to get the first job she applied for when moving near them, it's as a TA so I assume earns little. She only has to work term time, and my brother mostly works term time too, so they have pots of free time.

So now they've been looking for housing for after the wedding. My brother initially mentioned a tiny cottage on a main road, a little out of the area so it was cheaper. This seemed sensible to me, even though I was surprised they could get a mortgage at all.

But now I've had excited phone calls from both of them. Somehow they've secured a massive 3 bed semi, opposite my mum, and even includes all the furniture, kitchen goods, TV etc since they got in quick after the old lady died. I was astonished that this was possible, those houses are not cheap. Mum said 'he's done so well, he's saved up 50k deposit'. Which I was relatively impressed with until it transpired that almost all of that was from both sets of parents, and actually the numbers they gave don't add up it must be a much higher amount than that. He will be paying less than my council rent for 16 years and then he'll own a massive house! I've been paying full rent for 19 years already. They've also all arranged between all the parents to do all the childcare for the 4!! children that don't exist yet. Obviously, i do know, things might not go as planned.

I don't want to live opposite mum. I Don't want my childrearing planned out for me. I don't want to live in strict gender roles. but I'm still bloody jealous that he gets everything without hardly having to work.

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FenellaFellorick · 14/04/2015 07:48

I understand. It would upset me too. It's the appearance of such favouritism, isn't it?

But look at it this way - he's trapped. He's beholden to them and what they're doing they're doing to keep him trapped and dependent.

You, otoh, have made your own way in the world and are not shackled to them. That counts for a lot. You've really been through it! When you feel envious, remind yourself that you could have been unlucky enough to be the last born who was never let go!

He may be given money and stuff, but it only serves to maintain him as a child. I'm not surprised you don't want his life!

Sierraspider · 14/04/2015 07:54

Oh dear. I've been there and got the T shirt and jealousy is time consuming, horrid thing. It must be hard knowing your parents seem of given hin lots of money and you were fiven nothing, does not seem fair to me.

The only way you can get out of this jealousy thing is to focus on the positives in your life, and just try to be happy for your brother. You may only have a council house but at least its a secure roof over your head which is more than what some people have (including me whos landlord has decided he wants to sell and given us notice after 4 years of being here, but that's a different story!) Have some Flowers and try not to think of negative stuff and concentrate on what good things you have X

Radyward · 14/04/2015 07:55

I'm sorry you know Didley squat about what he has done with his finances the last number of years - perhaps he invested some money which came good etc - your post just smacks of a massive 'poor me '- some people on the surface seen to have easier lives but that's usually not the whole scenario - stop analysing and stressing about your brother - jealousy is just using up Brain time you need to concentrate on your own life - what your parents do with their money is entirely up to them !! Just leave them at it

AuntyMag10 · 14/04/2015 07:59

Did your parents not offer you the same opportunity to go to university?

shewept · 14/04/2015 07:59

Favouritism is always difficult to deal with. However you don't want what he has got. You don't want to live near etc so try and concentrate on that.

My dbro is like your dbro, but we do get on. He has a wife and 2 kids and can not fart with mum or dads help. His wife is the same. Mum even helps supermarket shop as apparently impossible for 2 adults to do food shopping with 2 kids and one adult stay at home with the kids while the other does it is not an option.

But mum is involved in every aspect of their lives. I prefer my, more independent life. That's what I concentrate on.

pinkdelight · 14/04/2015 08:00

Well you know everyone has their hardships when they look at their own life - the balloon may be squeezed in different places but there's still the same amount of air in it. I get why you've got focused on his apparent easy ride, but so much is in the way you frame your stories. What happened with your first DH was tragic but you could also present it that you've triumphed over that tragedy, got a new family and a home for life, financial independence and strength from all that you've been through. Instead you're fixating on your brother whose story could equally be framed in less positive terms eg a failed engagement, instead of cherrypicking details like the trip to Chile. Honestly I'm not saying you're wrong, it does sound unequal, but it's no use driving yourself insanely jealous when you've done so well and his situation and unknown levels of true happiness are irrelevant to your own family really. As you say, you don't even want his life, so focus on your own.

My sil has had a great deal from her parents compared to my DH but she'll be the one caring for them in their old age so it all balances out. I wouldn't want her life either. Fancy houses etc don't make us happy.

MyArksNotReady · 14/04/2015 08:00

The way your parents treat him compared to you is poor parenting.

As for his life achievements they are small fry. Your achievements with little support are huge.

SEmyarse · 14/04/2015 08:02

I mentioned going to uni. No mention of financial help, so I decided I couldn't afford it so couldn't go.

i guess its possible they would have helped if I'd asked but it would never have occurred to me to do so. i assumed everyone sorted it out for themselves.

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DoJo · 14/04/2015 08:03

Could you have done what he has done by staying with your parents and going to university?

SEmyarse · 14/04/2015 08:03

It's already been made clear that i'm expected to do the old age care, since I'm the female. I don't want to, but when it comes to it, it will be difficult.

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shewept · 14/04/2015 08:05

You do have to remember, he must have worked hard somewhere to get a well paid job too. People don't just piss around and walk into extremely well paid jobs.

You may think he had it easy compared to you, it doesn't mean he had it easy

MyArksNotReady · 14/04/2015 08:07

I was treated badly compared to a younger Son too.

I too was expected to do the old age care. I moved away and they don't know where to. I took the rug out under them. SS will have to care for them.

I put my dc above dysfunctional poor parents any day.

FenellaFellorick · 14/04/2015 08:07

people can expect what they like. You can choose to say no. Perhaps continue to work on detaching so that when the time comes you are able to do what is right for you without feeling guilty?

AuntyMag10 · 14/04/2015 08:09

If you've never asked your parents for help for uni, and you say they probably would have helped, then how can you be upset without knowing what they could or couldn't do?

shewept · 14/04/2015 08:09

You need to make it clear you will not be doing the care. It may be difficult to do this. But really if its worrying you, its best dealt with now, if that is not what you want.

Superexcited · 14/04/2015 08:11

You sound like my siblings. My siblings think I have been gifted everything because I'm the only one who went to uni, the only one to have never experienced homelessness and the only one to own a house and it is a detached 4 bed. My siblings think my parents have helped me to achieve all of this whilst not helping them. The reality is that I have had zero financial help (except low cost board and lodgings whilst saving for a house deposit but they have also lived at mums home and paid less than me). I wasn't helped whilst at uni, I took out loans but my siblings don't believe that. The jealousy and envy that seethes from my siblings is just so misplaced.
Instead of being jealous and seeing things differently from the reality they should learn to appreciate what they have and what my parents do for them (which is more than is done for me because they are always at my mums with the begging bowl and asking favours but assume that I get more help whereas I ask for none and get none).
Just get on with your own life.

lastlines · 14/04/2015 08:12

It sounds like your parents are quite passive in how they react to their children, and only give what people ask for. he's asked for more and got it. you have given an outward appearance of being able to cope with immense hardships. Maybe it's time to chat with them and say how upset you are that he's had this help while you struggled so much.

But you clearly have a lot going for you - two men have loved and married you, you have a council house - which are gold dust these days for their relatively fair rent and security. Some things have worked well for you, others haven't. Same with your brother. It's possible that he does have issues that have meant he needs help and you have been so snowed under by issues of your own that you've not acknowledged them.

Also, would you really want to live opposite your parents? I wouldn't!

NorahDentressangle · 14/04/2015 08:17

I would say he has had it very easy. Pandered to by the DPs. But it is how it is and you can't change the past.

He is also probably spoiled, maybe lazy? and going to live in the pockets of he DPs being across the road from them.

Personally I'd rather be skint and a long way from DPs. It would drive me nuts to have them interfering in my life as an adult.

But you need to get a backbone. And stop letting the goings on in your parents lives have such an influence on yours. Reduce the contact and get more fun stuff around you.

It's already been made clear that i'm expected to do the old age care, since I'm the female. I don't want to, but when it comes to it, it will be difficult
Honestly, if you are daft enough to go along with this you deserve to be catering to ungrateful elderlies for years until they finally die.

No No No No No No. Do not contemplate it. Move away, or make sure you have a job that means you cannot care for them (or just say no).

If there is a mug in the family who has agreed to take this role on then you can be sure the other members will be dumping them on you before their even 70, just to save them from doing anything.

No one needs to care for the elderly DPs, the elderly DPs can save the money (they aren't giving to their DS) and pay for their own care.

MyArksNotReady · 14/04/2015 08:19

I am sure the new wife will become the carer to your parents if you hide refuse.

ArcheryAnnie · 14/04/2015 08:21

I feel for you OP, but he sounds like a man-child, whereas you've lived a fully-adult life and have experienced and endured far more than he ever will.

But you should not under any circs do the old age care. That's his responsibility, and a chance for him to pay back a little of the feather-bedding that he's had from your parents. (Though I bet he will make his wife do it.)

Fairenuff · 14/04/2015 08:23

I was homeless for quite a while, and had to sleep on the floor of the residential home he lived in for several years.

How is that even possible? I'm really surprised that they allowed that OP.

shewept · 14/04/2015 08:27

In regards to the uni situation. You chose not to go and didn't ask if they would be able to help. He did. Or since none of their other kids went to uni, they had more spare cash to help him out.

My dbro went to uni, I didn't. It didn't seem worth it. Dbro got some help from mum and dad. I could have gone and could have asked for help. But i didn't. While my dbro has had a lot more of mums and dads time i can't hold the uni thing against him. It not his fault i didn't ask.

MyArksNotReady · 14/04/2015 08:29

Thing is op was brought up not to feel she could ask for help from her parents. The lesson was taught to op she wasn't deserving of help.

MrsTedCrilly · 14/04/2015 08:30

YANBU to feel like you do, but never be upset with the favoured one, it's the ones with favouritism who are making you feel like this.. Parents can cause so much resentment amongst siblings.
It is very unfair how you're treated differently.. where was this financial help when you were homeless!? Like others have said, you have made your own way in life and you can be very proud of that Smile

Homeishappiness · 14/04/2015 08:32

Well, it sounds like he's relied on your parents for housing whilst you relied on the state.

No judgement from me on either one, but if he's on less than £20,000 then he will need help with housing. He's hardly a millionaire.

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