Someone trying to recruit sellers for Forever Living in

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The maternity hospital waiting room, AIBU to find this absolutely disgusting? She came and sat next to me grinning and asking me questions about if I had any other kids and if I worked and I saw the brochure hanging out of her bag and went to the toilet, came back and she cornered another woman and had the brochures out showing Her. What is this company doing to people?

Sounds like the herbalife shite!

Violalion can you please explain how the pay structure works? Is it a percentage of personal sales (ie margin) or is it a percentage of sales that the people you've recruited have sold, or a combination of these? I am confused as to how you can earn £40k on commission if the products retail at £120 for the detox pack. Even if the mark-up is at 30%, it's £36 a pack and you'd need to sell over 1,100 boxes a year?? Are you confusing turnover with profit?
I have a friend who has given up their job to do FL full time (2 years in). One of the team leaders (or something) seemed to imply she was earning £40k Per Month which is astonishing to me for a low skilled sales job. I don't get it.

As if £40k were serious money

Yes let's have an intellectually rigorous analysis of the real facts

Apologies Vio I didn't realise it was a typo. Some FL people on my Facebook use the term 'business mums' to describe themselves so I thought 'ambition people' was another one. A vulnerable family member has started this recently so I have done my research and I'm yet to find any hard evidence to support the fact it's not too good to be true. As someone else said the margins would mean you must be selling a lot of product to make 40k a year. Can you explain how much you sell each month? If it's all legit then I'm happy for all those making a living however using my business head I just don't see how it is.

Have a read of this link violation

davidjwbailey.com/2014/07/04/forever_living_scam/

If you have some additional 'research' in response to this, then I'm all ears.

In my opinion, you're a FLbot - chasing the money and forgetting about how friends and family are far more important.

I did Amway yonks ago and it sounds very similar to that. When you are recruited the other sellers swarm all over you but if you ever decide to leave for whatever reason no one ever talks to you again, it was very very very cultish. The excuse they used was wanting to surround themselves with only positive people. The group I was briefly involved with were all born again christians and I was surprised how cold they could be. As far as I know multi-level marketing only makes really big money for those who set it up at the start and a few of the early recruited. You eventually run out of people who want to buy over priced stuff. I now avoid like the plague :)

Remember it's multi level marketing everyone. The typical person actually selling the product and without any underlings they recruited yet are probably only earning £4k per year from it. But the small number of lucky people who got in early and are a few rungs up the pyramid might be getting £1.5k per year creamed off the sales of 30 reps who are below them on the pyramid. So I'might happy to believe that someone at manager level is on £40k plus. But the problem with a system where you make serious money if you recruit 6 team members who recruit 6 team members is that the financial rewards only work out if everyone in the world becomes a rep. And then who do you sell to?

Excellent link there M15 - thanks for that. Bookmarked and ready to fire off if my Facebook FL drone starts again!

Get over to this thread www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/a2394271-Ive-been-sucked-into-forever-living-Why-do-I-feel-like-the-bad-guy?msgid=55073692#55073692

Not one FLbot has turned up yet - they are unable to argue the points we're raising.

Eugh! People who peddle this snake oil are unattractive - constantly at you claiming it can cure all sorts of ailments, but they believe all this shite because they go to these conferences to 'celebrate their success' draw you in ) and have doctors claiming to be specialists in aloe Vera telling absolute blatant lies. A close friend has been sucked in trying to sell this for a while now and told me how a "doctor, specialising in Aloe Vera" spoke at a conference and said coeliac disease, (an autoimmnune disease), is just a malabsorption condition that can be cured by their aloe Vera juice. Utter tosh. And dangerous.
And yes, you can make money if you can convince an army of underlings to sell the overpriced stuff so you can cream off a hefty percentage of their profits to unsuspecting people who are usually vulnerable and desperate for a solution to their ailments.