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To wish I'd masterminded Hatton Garden heist?

53 replies

Cunderthunt · 11/04/2015 22:11

I love reading all the details from the Hatton Garden vault raid & hope they get away with it!
Is it wrong to admire what they have done?
I know it's a crime but come on, it's a goodun huh?

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taxi4ballet · 11/04/2015 23:42

With all those millions of pounds-worth of precious gems in the vault, it's a wonder they didn't invest in a slightly better intruder alarm system (and decent CCTV as well come to think of it)!!!

saturdaysnitching · 11/04/2015 23:44

Can't believe they only had security Monday to Friday!

Sixweekstowait · 11/04/2015 23:48

there is a part of me that questions what some people are upto who put things in safety deposit boxes?

ChaiseLounger · 11/04/2015 23:50

Clever timing!!

Pipbin · 11/04/2015 23:54

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/apr/10/hatton-garden-jewel-heist-cops-robbers-clients

Very interesting article.

Two metres thick wall.

kylesmybaby · 11/04/2015 23:57

They had great CCTV but the robbers had time to find the hard drive and steal it. I do think they must've had someone working there helping them or how would they know where to drill and all the other details they obviously knew.

AmIthatHot · 12/04/2015 03:31

Not "offended", but wonder why you would hope they get away with it.

The boxes belonged to ordinary people, did they not? if it was my precious or sentimentally valuable stuff they had stolen, how depressing that some otherwise rational people would be applauding the thieving bastards Angry

NutcrackerFairy · 12/04/2015 07:45

Apparently the security guards also didn't investigate noises/alarms!

Sadly it seems heads are going to roll over this and I am saddened by people, i.e. security guards, potentially losing their employment and livelihood...

But now off to read Pipbin's article to find out how the buggers did it!

LikeIcan · 12/04/2015 07:52

Yep - absolute genius.

Can't help admiring them.

LikeIcan · 12/04/2015 07:57

'The boxes belonged to ordinary people'

The police haven't been able to trace some of the box holders, how do you know they're 'ordinary people' - just as likely some of the stuff stolen was not entirely legit in the first place.

RiojaHaze · 12/04/2015 08:04

If you have more than 3 false alarms from your intruder alarm the police take you off of their response list until you upgrade your system to something better. Many companies don't bother as they don't want to pay so it's not necessarily the fault of the police for not attending...

Stopandlook · 12/04/2015 08:08

Not exactly offended. Sad. Unlikely they are going to give the proceeds to the poor. Stealing's wrong innit?

bertieboo · 12/04/2015 08:17

Was having this conversation with a friend last night.
Even though they are "not nice people" and people have been badly affected, yadda yadda, the genius and planning behind this heist is quite breathtaking!
If this had previously been a film it probably would have been panned as a bit too far fetched.....

ahbollocks · 12/04/2015 08:29

I think it was the pink panthers- bosnian jewel thieves. Google them! They did have a film made about them a few years ago and some excellent articles about them in new york times.
They are non violent but employ a huge range of actora and models etc to pull off their heists, even breaking unfortunate members out of jail.
I find it thrilling honestly

Pipbin · 12/04/2015 08:37

I did read that keeping stuff in one of the boxes cost £300 a year so not silly money if you have something super precious.
Just think about the people on antiques roadshow who get great grandma's jewellery valued and find its worth £50k. Some boxes contained the wedding jewellery of Asian families.

They don't ask what goes into the box and when you go to access your box you are in a room without and cctv or whatever.

So yes, there is a chance of it being 'ordinary' people who have had stuff taken.

NorahDentressangle · 12/04/2015 08:54

But didn't they have inside help?

That makes it not so impressive imo, and more sneaky.

Sadit · 12/04/2015 09:07

Someone I know has had their items taken in his heist. She's heartbroken. Sentimental items of reasonable value her parents smuggled out of Germany during the nazi occupation.
They were Jews and these things were all she had left.
Awful. And to those who think it's "thrilling" and "exciting".....wonder how you would feel if your house got burgled in a similar way and the theives didn't get caught.

melodycool · 12/04/2015 09:12

Apparently a customer who'd just accessed their box and was leaving when the alarm first went off, asked the security guard if he was going to investigate.
He replied he wasn't paid enough to do that!
( not sure how true that is as I heard it from another person )

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Cunderthunt · 12/04/2015 12:20

I do feel bad for those who have lost sentimental items or had their privacy violated of course....but when sat in a dressing gown watching a crappy sports show presented by Holly Willoughby on a Saturday night, it just seemed more exciting somehow!

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NorahDentressangle · 12/04/2015 15:43

Did they get in through the roof? If so the guard would be unlikely to see anything anyway, nor would a visit from the police.

ThinkIveBeenHacked · 12/04/2015 15:49

I think it is quite an impressive feat. They will be caught, no doubt, though I highly doubt that the goods will be found.

I reckon they will end up with a notoriety similar to the Great Train Robbery.

OrlandoWoolf · 12/04/2015 15:53

Have you seen the Bank Job?

Also known as the Walkie Talkie Robbery in Baker Street?

They tunnelled under the vaults from next door and raided the boxes. There was allegedly some "interesting material" in the boxes including some pictures of members of the Royal Family and also some MPs.

www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/mar/11/film.ukcrime

LittleBairn · 12/04/2015 16:00

sadit I'm sorry for your friend I would be so upset if something of that significance was taken from me.

I am one of those party poopers that don't see this as fun at all.
Plenty of normal people have saftey security boxes they may even have very high value items in those boxes that doesn't mean they are wealthy and don't give a fuck and can easily afford to replace the items.
Do you honestly think these guys are a bunch of good time lads who would laugh about it down the pub?
Have you not pondered what would have happened if they were challenged? It's a serious crime, likely committed by hardened criminals who have already served time, they wouldn't have given themselves up easy.

Sadit · 12/04/2015 17:25

They were very crafty and it's been done so cleverly I do understand the "romanticising" of it all but now all the human interest stories will come out.
It's broke her heart little bairn.
Her parents had such pride that they'd "outwitted" the nazis with the little they did.
It isn't even the monetary value of the items. It's the sentiment and the emotions.
Items given to them by friends and family in the event that they too would have to leave (never made it out of Germany)...awful.

MonstrousRatbag · 12/04/2015 21:48

Not marvellous. EAsy to admore the cleverness when you're not involved. A good friend of BILs has a shop on Hatton Garden, I'm hoping they are not affected.

It is eerily like the heist in Salamander, that Belgian drama broadcast last year or the year before.