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to wonder whether Jeremy Clarkson engineered his own demise at the BBC?

54 replies

grovel · 25/03/2015 15:13

He did not have to report the "fracas" to his superiors but he chose to. Maybe, just maybe, he did not want to renew his contract next week but did not want to be seen to be walking away from a much-loved show. So he forces the BBC 's hand. He's now free to make other shows of his choosing, he's caused some mischief to the BBC and his fans will follow him elsewhere.

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Capricorn76 · 25/03/2015 17:13

Good luck to them on another channel. TV history is littered with presenters who thought they were legends and left the BBC for lucrative contracts with ITV etc and bombed. These include Jonathan Ross, Trinny and Suzannah, them two off the One Show plus many more.

The thing is despite the BBCs rep for being risk averse it actually gives 'the talent' more freedom as they're not bound by sponsors interests. There is no way the Top Gear guys could get away with offending people or slagging off cars without pushback against the channel from sponsors affecting advertising and shareholders.

hackmum · 25/03/2015 17:25

I've been thinking this too. He knew he was on a final warning. Who on earth would go and punch their producer under those circumstances? I think he was really keen to leave the BBC and just decided to put them in a position where they had no option but to sack him. I actually think the BBC were very keen to keep him (given the amount of money he brings in) but punching a colleague is always going to be a sackable offence.

I bet he turns up soon doing something immensely lucrative for another broadcaster.

CMP69 · 25/03/2015 17:34

Jeremy Clarkson is what he is and a totally marmite personality. His fans will follow him wherever he goes and I think he is very confident in that. James May said they work as a package for many complicated reasons (wtf that means I have no idea)
I think they will sell a Top Gear alike to the highest bidder and just carry on as before. The Beeb are the losers in this (and fans who don't have Sky)

CMP69 · 25/03/2015 17:36

Oh and yes he should be sacked for punching a colleague. No one no matter how important or influential they are can be allowed to get away with an assault in the workplace!

Nanny0gg · 25/03/2015 17:55

But he hasn't been sacked.

He's not having his contract renewed. Not quite the same.

And I do think the Jimmy Savile remarks were indefensible.

CocobearSqueeze · 25/03/2015 18:04

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eurochick · 25/03/2015 18:08

He has lawyered up for a breach of contract case with one of the most aggressive litigation firms in London according to the reports I read today.

I agree with those saying he will turn up on Sky or similar.

engeika · 25/03/2015 19:04

Difficult to know what it was all about but I agree with worksallhours about poor brand management.

To be honest the BBC has been after JC for a while. Who wants to work like that? And I am sorry but it is appalling that he was filming all day and there wasn't a decent meal. (And before anyone says it I am NOT condoning the assault!). He clearly puts in 100% for the BBC and they/we license payers earn a lot of money from him -- and the BBC can't even be arsed to get him something hot to eat.

Someone at the BBC should lose their job for this. I'd be shot if I lost that sort of revenue for a company!!!

CocobearSqueeze · 25/03/2015 19:27

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funnyossity · 25/03/2015 19:40

Capricorn I agree with that. Sadly they have let the one show guy back to radio5live - he's not that good.

stargirl1701 · 25/03/2015 19:45

He's due to host HIGNFY in a few weeks...

Feckeggblue · 25/03/2015 19:46

I completely agree with Capricorn- they won't have anything like the success elsewhere. Yes they're a good team, but the show is heavily scripted, the writers and format are what makes it so successful, not the presenters. That said It's been looking old for sometime and certainly wouldn't have lasted forever. I think they need the bbc far more than the bbc needed them- that doesn't mean the whole thing wasn't fabricated mind you.

SwedishEdith · 25/03/2015 19:53

It does all seem very convenient but, I agree with Capricorn's comments - Jonathan Ross is shit on ITV (but then he's gradually being reintroduced to Radio 2 now). They thought HIGNFY wouldn't survive when Angus Deayton got sacked when, instead, it actually got better.

shadowfax07 · 25/03/2015 20:09

I said to DP about an hour ago that it wouldn't surprise me if he hadn't already been in talks with another channel prior to this 'fracas'.

I am not condoning his violence at all. I do think that there has been something of a witch hunt going on to oust him from the BBC. He sold the rights to Top Gear for £10 million and got another £4 million as a bonus IIRC. Maybe with that amount of money in the bank, he thought it's not worth the hassle to continue - I know I would! He's leaving a very successful programme at its peak; call Jeremy Clarkson what you want, but he certainly isn't stupid.

Pedallleur · 25/03/2015 20:19

If Clarkson was a PL footballer his contract would not have been allowed to end as he is free to go elsewhere. Note the BBC haven't actually sacked him, they aren't renewing his contract. Was he even a BBC employee anyway of just hired in? Apparently the option to do 'Have I Got News... is still there so how can he be sacked? Why didn't someone just take him to one side and calm the situation down? The crew who were there will be used to working with him and the Producer has done 10 years. In an interview, May was asked about returning to TG and diplomatically said it wasn't that simple, they were a package ie my contract finishes next week, I'm off wherever he goes

engeika · 25/03/2015 20:22

Cocobear I hadn't realised the bit about the pint in the pub - changes things slightly. JC doesn't come out of it so well.

I still think that the BBC, when that amount of money is being earned could have managed it better. And to some extent if you are the key person on a show then really the rest of the team need to work around that. No excuse for bad behaviour though.

Capricorn has a very good point about the team behind the scenes - and the BBC used to be and probably still is very good at that.

shadow - I feel the same as you about the witchhunt -there is a lot of that going on at the moment. He really wasn't as bad as all that yet he was constantly lambasted for being all sorts of evil.

worksallhours · 25/03/2015 20:23

They only left for the venue 3 hours later which meant the chef was done with work and they weren't serving food.

The thing is that someone working on TG should have ensured there was someone available at the hotel to provide hot food if there was any kind of overrun, or that there was some way of getting hot food if the hotel could not. This sort of thing will be part of someone's job description on that programme; it is really basic stuff.

What I find somewhat amusing (and very telling) is that Clarkson apparently turned up at 9.30pm and the hotel chef had already gone home. Confused Grin When I was young, I worked restaurants in semi-rural areas for years and I cannot remember a chef being able to get away before 10.30pm, even on a slow night. Even if your last sitting is at 9pm, how does your chef wangle leaving 30 minutes later?

And then it turns out the hotel wanted to cut the power at 9.30am the following morning "for maintenance" Grin and BBC staff had to beg them to leave it on for another hour so Clarkson could have a hot breakfast.

At which point, I do have to ask ... who the hell booked this hotel? And does no-one on that programme do any kind of contingency planning?

One of my friends is film crew a grip/gaffer/dolly/focus puller something Grin and works a lot of location shoots. He has always said the most vital part of a location shoot is the catering. If the catering screws up, production screws up. You cannot expect people to work long days if there is no hot food. He once told me that he worked a location shoot in Eastern Europe where they lost a day's filming in some remote location because the tea urn broke and the crew just wouldn't continue.

That is the reality of that kind of work, and I just think the BBC looks pretty incompetent.

FruminariaBandersnatchiosum · 25/03/2015 20:28

I may be wrong about this but I think JC used to own 50% of the TG 'franchise'. He then sold that 50% to the BBC and has now trashed it. He has pocketed the money and is now free to make a whole new show on another channel for megabucks again. As I said I may be wrong about this but my gut feeling is it was accidently on purpose perhaps?

Feckeggblue · 25/03/2015 20:32

I don't think he has retained any ownership. I'm surprised it was even worry that much, considering how fragile it's success has proved to be (but maybe £10m
Isn't an unusually high amount for an exported tv programme?)

worridmum · 25/03/2015 20:34

truth be told all three will be leaving and Top gear for the BBC is most likely dead as much as i dislike JC he and the other 2 were good presentors but my money is another Top Gear like show will be happening on Sky with all 3 of them

Pedallleur · 25/03/2015 20:38

He and the Producer did indeed sell the remaining share to the BBC - they bought it off the BBC, repackaged it and sold it back whilst retaining a share which they then sold. Bedder 6 was the company name if you want to Google it. Clarkson was on £750k + expenses per episode and his contract has been waiting to be signed for 6 months. He knows the business and the brand and if you were to look at the register at Companies House you might find his name behind a company set up a few months ago.

longjane · 25/03/2015 20:38

The person who said top gear was heavily scripted did not know that Jeremy Clarkson wrote the scripts.

Feckeggblue · 25/03/2015 20:39

No he didn't/ doesn't. I know one of the script writers. They're also named in the closing credits.

worksallhours · 25/03/2015 20:41

the show is heavily scripted

Yes ... by Wilman, Clarkson, Hammond and May. They write the majority of it as far as I am aware, with some input from more junior members of the team.

I think this is why the situation is different with TG, compared to Angus Deayton etc. Clarkson, Hammond and May are not just presenters, they are also the show's writers and script editors ... I suppose you could say they are pretty much the TG showrunners.

And when a show loses its showrunners, well, it is very difficult to come back from that. In fact, a showrunner leaving a show is usually a sign of cancellation.

I sound like I am defending Clarkson. I am not, I am just fascinated to see how the players in this drama are managing to destroy a show that is so globally successful.

Onethirdamidwife · 25/03/2015 20:53

I wonder if Jezza has been itching to give the producer what for!! It seems rather ott for what it was apparently about. Maybe it was perfect timing and he wanted to go out with a bang? I did something similar when I was finally getting away from my evil step mother and gave her a parting slap for the way she treated me. Not the same obviously. I love Jezza he is what he is so if you don't like him or get his humour turn over. Hope he returns to our screens soon