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To think that MN has become infested...

121 replies

BetweenDogandWolf · 23/03/2015 18:29

...with people who don't understand the difference between gender and sex?

OP posts:
MaidOfStars · 23/03/2015 19:02

Sex are what posh people get their coal in

Is that a euphemism? Wink

FirstWeTakeManhattan · 23/03/2015 19:04

Putting people right as opposed to slamming them for being unthinking eejits is always a good approach, generally.

sarkymare · 23/03/2015 19:05

TAAT. Nice.

Personally I think commenting on a thread purely to be sarcastic and pointing out mistakes is far worse than using an incorrect word OP.

That OP meant no harm and was just excited about having scan.

BetweenDogandWolf · 23/03/2015 19:05

Of course it matters.

This isn't a thread about a thread, it's not just one poster.

OP posts:
QueenBean · 23/03/2015 19:05

Gender is whether you're a boy or a girl

Sex is a boy putting his willy in you innit

How is that hard to understand?

AuntieStella · 23/03/2015 19:06
QueenBean · 23/03/2015 19:10

AuntieStella

I am joking Grin

AuntieStella · 23/03/2015 19:13
Grin

Of course asking an antipodean to count to ten, and seeing which one says 'sex' before 7 sorts your Aussies from your Kiwis.

TheSpottedZebra · 23/03/2015 19:14

'MN has become infested with^ ???

Fuck me, that's some high level snark there.

Justanotherlurker · 23/03/2015 19:15

Is this more of the tumblr creep?

butterfly2015 · 23/03/2015 19:19

If we are talking about an unborn baby does it really bloody matter?

Personally I think some people on this site are overly obsessed with gender, gender neutral toys and not dressing girls in pink or buying them dolls. However it's fine to dress boys in pink and buy them dolls. And there's lots of shouty behaviour about people making their dc conform to gender and what society expects and quite honestly it's exhausting.

I'm not sure why it's so prevalent on here, I've not been here that long but I'm honestly bewildered by the absurd things some people get outraged about.

popalot · 23/03/2015 19:21

'infested' ?!

GlacindaTheTroll · 23/03/2015 19:23

One of the nice things about a site as big as this is that it shows you things beyond your immediate circle.

Gender and how it is perceived matters a great deal. Especially if you want to see a more equal society.

AnnieMoor · 23/03/2015 19:28

Blimey, is this the latest thing we have to be indignant about?

I had no idea.

Momagain1 · 23/03/2015 19:38

Gender as a social construct is a new thought, one discussed and accepted by people with an interest in the acceptance of gender difference more nuanced than penis = male, vagina = female.

But most people still think in the obvious and centuries old limited definitions, even if they are, to some extent, theoretically accepting of LGBTQ individually or as a concept that exists beyond their circle. They have not actually encountered the idea that the word gender applies other than as the more discrete and sciency sounding euphemism for describing which body parts you have.

That you think gender as social construct is the standard meaning of the word shows your friends and aquaintances and social media is full of a certain sliver of society. Mumsnet is making you aware of another sliver who do not understand the word in the way you do, because they have not encountered that way of thinking. Or have encountered it, but not yet really understood/accepted it.

I suspect the large portion of the worlds population, who arent on-line nor educated to modern western thought on the definition, also think of the word as describing two physical conditions, rather than a range.

butterfly2015 · 23/03/2015 19:44

Equal in what way? Between men and women? Between races? Between rich and poor? Between the disabled and the able bodied?

Women and men will never be entirely equal. Women carry and give birth to the children. In some people's eyes, that gives women more power than men with regard to keeping the baby, seeing the baby, paying for the baby. They also get considerably more time off work after the baby. Do we want men to have an equal say over whether a baby should be kept even if the woman wants to terminate?

If we are talking about work and pay then it should of course be equal if the candidates are equal in their abilities. But not just because one has a uterus.

I think there are much tougher battles to be fought rather than the "I'm female, therefore I demand equality" one. I assumed we had it here. We are allowed to vote, drive, walk about without a chaperone, without being covered from head to toe, we are allowed free speech and to do what we want. And that applies to men and women in the UK. Equality, see?

Thereyouarepeter · 23/03/2015 19:58

You make it sound like it's a done deal that gender is a social construct, is that true or is there still no proof either way? I thought it was still a relatively young philosophical/sociological theory.

I wouldn't be surprised if "science" were to prove it one way or the other to be honest.

frumpet · 23/03/2015 20:17

tiggyd I have just spat a perfectly good G&T all over my key board Grin

To be honest if everyone just treated everyone they ever meet with kindness and respect this whole thread would be null and void .

silverbangles66 · 23/03/2015 20:27

I didn't know this, which is surprising as I have infested these boards for almost a decade.

I genuinely don't care, OP.

Partly because I don't and partly because such a sanctimonious, hectoring and downright rude TAAT has given me the right hump.

VoyageOfDad · 23/03/2015 20:30

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Only1scoop · 23/03/2015 20:32

Especially the 'can you guess the gender of my baby' daily scan pictures!! Confused

Bair · 23/03/2015 20:35

Is mayonnaise a gender?

Methe · 23/03/2015 20:37

Oh god not this again.

Sex is what's bwtween your legs gender is what's between your ears. Not that it matters a jot as long as everyone is treated as an individual.

miniavenger · 23/03/2015 20:39

I don't think it's just mumsnet, seems like everyone online and off is getting it wrong bar a few. Does my head in.

Bair · 23/03/2015 20:40

'Not that it matters a jot as long as everyone is treated as an individual.'

This, there must be so many different personality types and behaviors and everyone gets their panties in such a bunch about whether you are box a or box b, or in the wrong box.

It has to be a social construct, because in no other aspect of personality or behaviour are we expected to fit into one of two boxes.

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