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About DP's birthday party, or lack of?

69 replies

iamanintrovert · 21/03/2015 13:26

I don't think I am, but I feel bad, and I'd like some ideas of what I can do to make it all better.

Name change and a few minor details to protect anonymity etc.

It's DP's birthday in a few weeks. Not a big one, late thirties.

We discussed today what he would like to do. He would like to have a large number of friends/partners/kids around for a BBQ, including his ex wife.

(DP and I have lived together for two years. We have 2 young DC at home, and he has 3 older DC to exW - one an adult with kids, one living independently and one teen living with mum.)

I don't feel willing to do exactly what he would like, for 2 reasons. Firstly, I am completely uncomfortable with having such a large gathering at home. I would estimate that he wants to invite around 20 adults, and they would have about 20 kids of all ages in total between them. I'm just not comfortable with this number of people. I also know that a few of them have exhibited behaviours at other gatherings that I am not willing to have at home. In particular, excessive drinking, cannabis use, and "rowdy" behaviour eg doing burnouts up the street etc. Some of them have children who disrespect other's property and I have had to "tell off" some of the children who have visited before for doing things like digging holes in my driveway - harmless but annoying.

I am a known professional in a small town, as well as being a middle aged introvert, and I just can't handle this idea.

I have offered him that we could host up to three couples with their attached children, I can do that, but he said no, as other friends would get annoyed that they weren't invited, and that the older kids would be upset that they weren't specially invited. (All the kids have been here multiple times to visit. They all live locally, they know they are welcome to visit anytime, I get on well with them all etc etc).

Which brings me to the second reason - I don't want to have his exW here.

He has almost no contact with exW - all kids organise their own contact with Dad when they want. He won't go to exW's house if there is an event for the kids there unless I go too, as he says he feels uncomfortable around her. He talks about her to me in private disparagingly, nothing nice. So why does he want to invite her to the party? Because he says that she will expect to be invited if the kids are, and that it will cause upsets if she is not.

Last year, I/we invited the exW over for a few social gatherings (smaller ones!) involving the kids. There were no issues, with this, except that it didn't feel right to me. And I don't want to invite her to my house for the foreseeable future.

I suggested as an alternative inviting a few friends out to lunch at a local pub but he said no, and I'm not sure why.

I've also said I'm happy for him to participate in his hobby that day - there is an event on that he was thinking of going to but he has decided not to. I will do presents and cake for him with the 2 younger DC of course. I will do a favourite meal with local delicacies etc, stuff that we don't eat much due to expense. One of the older kids will definitely come to visit with her partner, I'm not sure about the other two - they are more than welcome, but for some reason I don't understand even after talking about it for two years, we can't invite them formally to come over without asking their mother to come too.

What else can I do to make the day special for him? And am I being very unreasonable? He sort of had a "well don't bother, I know it's all too hard for you" attitude, but I do want to make it a fun day, but I just can't do a large free-for-all gathering.

OP posts:
HaveTeaWillSurvive · 21/03/2015 15:15

I love hosting and that is a lot of people unless you have oodles of open plan space.

I know you say you don't have the budget but the cost of renting a hall / community centre is v. Likely to be less than feeding the three couples plus kids you offered up. Thens it's simply a case of asking people to bring a dish and byob and everyone's happy.

waits to see if asking people to bring a dish to a party is akin to wedding money grabbing poems in MN land

fredfredgeorgejnr · 21/03/2015 15:25

OP, your partner probably has a need to host - being the host in your home is quite different to inviting people to another location. And it's a common cultural need - inviting people into your home is part of it. It would be a completely different thing to do it anywhere but the home, so pointless.

You asked what you could do, let him the party, find your own way to deal with it - only attend part, retreat to a place of safety etc. You're a middle aged professional, you presumably have coping strategies from work that let you be in uncomfortable situations - I do, and I just bring them out in the home scenarios when necessary. The party though is easy - you just leave, and come back when you're refreshed!

"The house is mine" - no, the house is his home too, unless you think of him as your guest and not your partner. If you really feel like that then I think that's a very different problem and it's not a financial thing, it's a home thing, you can own the house for sure, but a house is not a home.

redskirt · 21/03/2015 15:37

Fred that's interesting about his need to host. .... maybe it is saying something about how he feels happy and secure enough in our relationship and home to want to do this? And that would be why he said no to pub etc.

I've been approaching this from the point of view that because it's HIS birthday, then I SHOULD be the one organising and hosting..... but maybe I've got it wrong? Would it be OK for me to say he can go ahead and organize it himself?

Because part of my reluctance is the burden of thinking about everything that would need to be done etc

Jewels234 · 21/03/2015 15:44

I'm not sure where I stand on this. In my relationship if my partner knew how much I would hate something like this then he would do the decent thing and not do it. Though I would still offer.

So you are both BU. But in this argument I think the birthday trumps it.

Just be super demanding for yours!

Littlef00t · 21/03/2015 15:54

Near me we can book a big BBQ plot at the local woods. I know he's not keen on a picnic but you push that point and see if he'd be interested?

fredfredgeorgejnr · 21/03/2015 19:41

I think asking him if he wants to host and organise would be a very good compromise, and hopefully without you as the host you'll remove enough stress to make it bearable!

Roobo · 21/03/2015 21:02

Genuine question here...
What do people mean by 'hosting'?

We had a small BBQ for DH's birthday a few weeks ago (and yes it was freezing, but fun!) and all it involved was inviting family and friends, shopping for food and cooking meat on the BBQ. Then during just sorting the food out and pointing people in the direction of the drinks etc. Is this hosting?

Everyone on here always 'hosts' their family and friends. Is it just posh talk for 'inviting people over' Confused

redskirt · 21/03/2015 21:07

Yes I think that's pretty much it Ròobo :)

TowerRavenSeven · 21/03/2015 21:22

YANBU. My dh knows what I like and dislike, doesn't your dh know what you like and can handle or can't handle? Why would he ask this of you? There must be some kind of compromise on his side. I don't think asking him what he wants means he gets whatever he wants.

I liken that to asking a child what they want for Christmas and them saying massive amounts of gifts you can't afford. Well, you don't go and purchase everything they want, you get what they want but not so much of it. So in this instance, you give what you can handle!

If he's not interested then let him sulk and just do cake and gifts. I don't you should have to do a free-for-all for him if you can't handle it (and I mean that nicely, I don't like crowds either and the thought of cannabis and rowdy kids...I'd run for the hills too.

TowerRavenSeven · 21/03/2015 21:24

And the ex-wife stuff is just utterly ridiculous. It sounds like he's afraid of her.

Laquitar · 21/03/2015 21:46

Tbh you sound very different types of people and you are going to have problems regarding your social life.
Not only regarding this birthday.

Also are you different regarding work/money/assets?

keepsmiling2015 · 21/03/2015 22:10

'WE discussed chat he'd like to do' lol basically he can do whatever he wants - as long as it suits you! YABVU

Joyfulldeathsquad · 21/03/2015 22:17

I couldn't cope with that many people either. I'd be on edge it wouldn't be enjoyable.

I don't think your BU about ex wife either

landrover · 21/03/2015 22:26

You can use a local hall (50 quid), get people to fetch a main course or pudding, and their own drinks (or hall with bar). Cost wouldn't be much different and job done! x

maras2 · 21/03/2015 22:42

I've never heard such nonsense.It's not even a significant birthday but he wants bells and whistles,Oh and of course to put it on Facebook twat. Tell him to grow up.

maras2 · 21/03/2015 22:44

It's NOT a significant birthday.Bastard autocorrect.

redskirt · 22/03/2015 10:32

Thanks for all the later comments.

Tower raven that's a good thought about him being afraid of her. Afraid to upset her. Maybe she had old dirt to spill.

Smiling, of course he can do what he wants, but he wants to do something that we are both involved in. That's pretty normal I think.

EveBoswell · 22/03/2015 11:29

'Fraid I'm opposite and like to entertain. I'm not all that keen on children if they're not mine though as I know that things can be damaged. When I had other peoples' children round because they had to come with their parents, I'd always put away anything I thought they'd be attracted to. I'd use paper plates and plastic knives and forks if it were a 'walk-about' party. I would use proper knives, forks and china for a sit down adult meal with no children.

How can teenagers damage things? Do they just knock things over or something?

As for the ExW, perhaps he still feels comfortable with her around? I wouldn't want my DH's ExW though. When my DH died, his sons asked if I minded if the ExW attended his funeral. I thought of them not me and allowed her.

Yes, I know this is a party thread and not a funeral but just to say that I cannot understand why he thinks she should attend. She should be history now (except for their children, of course.

redskirt · 22/03/2015 23:51

Yeah, that question puzzles me so much. The most understandable answer would be that she won't let him see the kids if he annoys her, but as two are grown up and one is upper teens it doesn't really make sense. I wonder if there's some sort of sordid family secret story behind it, but I'm not the sort of person who will push and prod to find out.

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