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AIBU?

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About DP's birthday party, or lack of?

69 replies

iamanintrovert · 21/03/2015 13:26

I don't think I am, but I feel bad, and I'd like some ideas of what I can do to make it all better.

Name change and a few minor details to protect anonymity etc.

It's DP's birthday in a few weeks. Not a big one, late thirties.

We discussed today what he would like to do. He would like to have a large number of friends/partners/kids around for a BBQ, including his ex wife.

(DP and I have lived together for two years. We have 2 young DC at home, and he has 3 older DC to exW - one an adult with kids, one living independently and one teen living with mum.)

I don't feel willing to do exactly what he would like, for 2 reasons. Firstly, I am completely uncomfortable with having such a large gathering at home. I would estimate that he wants to invite around 20 adults, and they would have about 20 kids of all ages in total between them. I'm just not comfortable with this number of people. I also know that a few of them have exhibited behaviours at other gatherings that I am not willing to have at home. In particular, excessive drinking, cannabis use, and "rowdy" behaviour eg doing burnouts up the street etc. Some of them have children who disrespect other's property and I have had to "tell off" some of the children who have visited before for doing things like digging holes in my driveway - harmless but annoying.

I am a known professional in a small town, as well as being a middle aged introvert, and I just can't handle this idea.

I have offered him that we could host up to three couples with their attached children, I can do that, but he said no, as other friends would get annoyed that they weren't invited, and that the older kids would be upset that they weren't specially invited. (All the kids have been here multiple times to visit. They all live locally, they know they are welcome to visit anytime, I get on well with them all etc etc).

Which brings me to the second reason - I don't want to have his exW here.

He has almost no contact with exW - all kids organise their own contact with Dad when they want. He won't go to exW's house if there is an event for the kids there unless I go too, as he says he feels uncomfortable around her. He talks about her to me in private disparagingly, nothing nice. So why does he want to invite her to the party? Because he says that she will expect to be invited if the kids are, and that it will cause upsets if she is not.

Last year, I/we invited the exW over for a few social gatherings (smaller ones!) involving the kids. There were no issues, with this, except that it didn't feel right to me. And I don't want to invite her to my house for the foreseeable future.

I suggested as an alternative inviting a few friends out to lunch at a local pub but he said no, and I'm not sure why.

I've also said I'm happy for him to participate in his hobby that day - there is an event on that he was thinking of going to but he has decided not to. I will do presents and cake for him with the 2 younger DC of course. I will do a favourite meal with local delicacies etc, stuff that we don't eat much due to expense. One of the older kids will definitely come to visit with her partner, I'm not sure about the other two - they are more than welcome, but for some reason I don't understand even after talking about it for two years, we can't invite them formally to come over without asking their mother to come too.

What else can I do to make the day special for him? And am I being very unreasonable? He sort of had a "well don't bother, I know it's all too hard for you" attitude, but I do want to make it a fun day, but I just can't do a large free-for-all gathering.

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AlpacaMyBags · 21/03/2015 13:48

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iamanintrovert · 21/03/2015 13:48

I like the spit roast idea. Will start saving for next year. I think he would maybe really like that. And at least I'd be trying my best to give him what he wants.

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iamanintrovert · 21/03/2015 13:50

Thhhhhhh to you cleanmyhouse, even though this is AIBU. It's not "Let's be rude to OP"

The house is mine. He moved in with me. I try to remember it's his space too, but I'm not willing to do a free-for-all.

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cariadlet · 21/03/2015 13:50

I think that if you are a pretty outgoing person, it can be difficult to understand how stressful the kind or party your DP wants would be for you. And given the behaviour that some of his friends and their children have shown in the past, I can quite understand why you wouldn't want them in your house or around your children. Definitely no reason why his ex should be there - and I really can't understand why his dc's can't come without her.
The alternatives you suggested seemed a good compromise, but if he has his heart set on a big gathering then a hall seems the best bet. If you go for something like a church hall, they aren't too expensive too hire and he can put an open invite on FB.

JCLNE · 21/03/2015 13:50

I'd tell him he can have his party IF he organises it, hosts it and cleans up after it.

Then I'd make plans to spend the day elsewhere.

ilovesooty · 21/03/2015 13:51

You've said a lot about what you want to happen in your home but I presume that it's his home too.
However I'd also suggest this isn't a question of giving him what he wants. As I see it he can have whatever kind of party he likes.

iamanintrovert · 21/03/2015 13:53

The exW thing is crazy. I don't get it, and that frustrates me. I'm guessing there's some family dynamics from long long ago (they were together for a long time) that he can't explain and I can't understand.

It's annoying though :(

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ilovesooty · 21/03/2015 13:53

So do you regard it as more your home than his and feel you get the final say so?

LumpySpacedPrincess · 21/03/2015 13:56

He's being massively demanding in my opinion. What does he do for your birthday out of interest?

Branleuse · 21/03/2015 13:56

I would suggest for him to go ahead if hes happy to host it, do the BBQ and keep checks on things, but I wouldnt want to do it either. In fact I dont think id cope at all. I could deal with a night out, like hiring a room in a bar and having food, but not in my home. Neither of you are wrong

If youre an introvert and hes an extrovert who likes having big house parties, then is this an ongoing issue??

iamanintrovert · 21/03/2015 13:57

JCLNE, that would work for me!!!!! But not for him. He would rather have a (boring for him) day but still be with me and the kids (and as many of the older ones as possible of course).

He would go out of his way to do for me what I wanted for my birthday, to answer previous questions. So I guess that's extra incentive for me to try and stretch myself out of my comfort zone for him. Will ponder it overnight (southern hemi here), and if I can't face it this year, will definitely aim for something big and social [and horrible, scary, yucky!] next year :)

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Branleuse · 21/03/2015 13:58

Is he purposely asking you something that he knows you wont be able to be ok with? The ex wife thing is weird.

EastMidsMummy · 21/03/2015 13:58

A BBQ? In March?

Branleuse · 21/03/2015 14:00

If its your house its your house. Hes not your husband. He doesnt own the house jointly. He doesnt get to invite the whole town into your house when youre clearly uncomfortable with it

iamanintrovert · 21/03/2015 14:00

Yes it is an intro/extro issue! We've only lived together 2 years, and I'm fairly sure that he's never done big house parties in his previous life....but I'm not sure why.

I know he'd like to. Maybe he needs to get it out of his system.......

I don't see it as having the final say in my house, but neither of us would expect to do something that the other is not comfortable with. That works both ways.

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iamanintrovert · 21/03/2015 14:01

Southern hemisphere EastMids!!

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Branleuse · 21/03/2015 14:04

Just say lets do a big party with all your friends etc in a bar/pub/beach then. Not in my house. Thats a good compromise

yomellamoHelly · 21/03/2015 14:08

Find a pub that also does nice food / has nice outdoor area. Reserve some tables for lunchtime and play it by ear from then on.

iamanintrovert · 21/03/2015 14:12

Thanks for all the perspectives. I think I need to try and loosen up a little, if possible........I've spent my birthday budget on presents already, and I really don't want to ask him to fund his own, but I'm thinking next year I could hire a hall/caterers etc and say to him, invite who you like!

Something to think about anyway.

What sorts of things do you all do for your partners?

It's a bit hard to compare what he does for me as my birthday clashes very very closely with some of the DC, and, as another example of my introversion I guess, I only have enough emotional energy to think about the DC's birthday, not mine as well - I just get all peopled out. But "missing" my birthday while the DC are young isn't really an issue for me at all.

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iamanintrovert · 21/03/2015 14:14

And thank you all for prompting me to remember that he really does go out of his way to consider me in all things and to give me the things that I want in our life together, so I will definitely make a bigger effort for him, and try not to focus on my own discomfort so much. Cheers :)

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NoWireCoathangers · 21/03/2015 14:22

You ask him what he wants, he wants a simple BBQ with friends and family around him. It's not as though he wants a lot. A few hours of inconvenience and limited outlay financially.

LindyHemming · 21/03/2015 14:41

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redskirt · 21/03/2015 14:57

Haha must be a local term, burnouts = rubber on road.

Coathangers, yes I'd be willing to do that. But not badly behaved people and an ex wife. And he wants all-or-nothing :(

redskirt · 21/03/2015 15:00

And to add a rant, what is it with people (in this case DP!) who say they have to invite absolutely everyone or people will find out, and "see it on Facebook"? I personally just don't care if I'm not invited to everything, in fact I feel relieved.

Branleuse · 21/03/2015 15:03

god me too. Who even wants to go to other peoples parties??

shudders