Its perfectly acceptable to be rude to religous people...

[startrek90]

Definately going to get flamed here but oh well.

I get the feeling that this is perfectly acceptable to be rude about religous people. From reading the threads on this forum, and my experiences in RL, the amount of rudeness and sometimes plain nastiness is awful.

I am religous. I don't care if people are not, if they go to church or how they live their own lives or raise their children. As far as I am concerned as long as you obey the law, do what you want.

So far I have seen people imply that all religous people are closing their childrens mind, are ignorant, bigots.... its horrible!

I don't deny that there are people who are that way and use religion as an excuse.... but quite frankly you can be ignorant and rude without religion.

I am being unreasonable to be offended, but it really bothers me that its culturally acceptable to be rude to and about people of faith. You wouldn't do it to someone from a different culture or race would you? I have never bothered anyone with my faith so please stop taking it as an insult!

(Just venting, been lambasted in RL for daring to buy my son a Noahs ark toy. I thought it was cute with all the animals etc... but apparently I am raising him to be ignorant, bigoted and stupid. He will hate gay people and women and generally be a horrible person.....apparently grrr )

Church schools that select on faith are the opposite of inclusive. Let's not sugar coat. And the CofE and RC churches could stop this overnight, but they choose not to. It's interesting to speculate why.

And if child A thinks he is being ridiculed you would just tell him to stop being silly and toughen up?

Personally if someone told me they thought I was being rude with a particular phrase I would just stop using it- rather than spend 2 days telling them it isn't rude.

Capsium, interesting that you acknowledge the privileged position Christianity enjoys in this country but don't feel that non-Christians are entitled to feel aggrieved by this. Surely you can see that it is a factor in people's resentment of Christianity. In turn, I believe this inequality is a contributing factor to the rudeness complained of in this thread. Wouldn't you rather have a level playing field with less resentment and more tolerance all round?

If everyone opted out they wouldn't be different. Has anyone ever tried canvassing opinion and getting a whole class opted out?

"And if child A thinks he is being ridiculed you would just tell him to stop being silly and toughen up?"

Er-no. That's not what I said. Why not read my post again?

Everybody, BigD? I'm surprised that the Status Quo has not changed already.

merry I don't believe the playing field will ever be level because I believe you can only receive God's blessings if you accept them. I accept them.

Jassy you are preaching to the converted regarding selection on faith.

I am getting lost Hak- would you or would you not ask child B to stop using a phrase if child A thinks it is ridicule? Or do you persist in telling child A it is not ridicule and he has to put up with it?

"I am getting lost Hak- would you or would you not ask child B to stop using a phrase if child A thinks it is ridicule? Or do you persist in telling child A it is not ridicule and he has to put up with it?"

It would depend what it was. I don't think child A should have a compete veto, surely? Particularly, as I said, if it was in the debating club.

"merry I don't believe the playing field will ever be level because I believe you can only receive God's blessings if you accept them. I accept them."

Well, if you feel that you are so blessed in comparison to non believers, surely you could throw us a crust by letting our children stay in assembly?

How lovely for you Capsium. So the problem of others' resentment is amply compensated by the blessings? Meaning you are not bothered by the rudeness of the unblessed unfortunates, I hope.

merry I believe everybody is blessed alike. However not everybody accepts or acknowledges these blessings. There are no unblessed and no one is unloved by God.

Who said it was a debating club? Said in the playground - do you let child be upset child A with a phrase that child A thinks is ridicule?

Child B not child be

BigD none of which I suppose you are guilty of. Care to share the wonderful things you have done against apathy, entitlement and privilege?

Hak I hereby let your children stay in assembly.

I really don't see what that has to do with equality and fairness besides being a way of saying that you are not in favour of those things. Are you suggesting that by accepting God's blessings you have earned special privileges in this world?

Yes merry because I believe God blesses. Everything good that has happen to me I believe is by His blessing.

"Who said it was a debating club? Said in the playground - do you let child be upset child A with a phrase that child A thinks is ridicule?"

I mentioned the debating club because I thought you were drawing a parallel with this thread. And context is importwnt. For the 3rd time, it would depend what it was. Maybe child A though it was ridicule because he didn't understand and need to who've somthing explained. Maybe it was mildly rude, but child A needs to learn how not to over react. Maybe it was something smart aresy and child B needs to learn that nobody loves a smart are.Or maybe it was somthing horrible and child B needs to be stomped on. But no, I don't think that child A has an automatic right of veto.