To think that gravy on chips is illogical.. and working class...

[vinegarandbrownpaper]

My heart sinks when I have a meal with fries and (it IS always) a working class server decides without asking that any liquid on the plate is there solely to turn something that is clearly cooked for crispyness into mush. Its the same with beans or anything.

Its double illogical (which I think is a class thing) because NOT doing that means you can have soggy and shit or crispy and lovely, whereas once a fry even remotely touches mush, its fucked.

I know about Iceland, but are all working class meals flavourless gullet swilling mush? Is that where it comes from?

flightywoman "Only Northern curry sauce though, the southern stuff is rank and WRONG."

What's the difference between the two and how many times have you tried "the southern stuff" to know it's the fact that it's southern that makes it so bad, not just the ones you had? I'm genuinely curious although, as I said, I haven't been in a chip shop for over half a century.

I've had southern curry sauce quite a few times. It's always been much more liquid than what we get oop north. I don't dislike it, but do prefer the northern wallpaper paste

Maybe Northern chips are horrible and need disguising < starts fight>

Western chips are crispy and light and just need a sprinkle of salt and a tiny bit of vinegar

I was in Texas once a and the waitress set down this massive plate of of chips with jalapeños, dripping with cheese. It was the best damn ever. Her boots probably cost more than my car so can't judge her socio- economic status.

I've been known to put cheddar cheese on a curry. Never had the pleasure of a parmo, they don't exist in these parts.

yes ditto southern gravy - it's not thick enough to slice - it's just - you know - gravy

Northern gravy is black and thick and salty - god I'm definitely going home soon

I also add coleslaw to beans on toast when I have it for my dinner - at 12:30 pm

Mmmm, chips, gravy, a pile of bread with butter and a cuppa tea to was it down, smashing!!

Did someone mention Henderson's?!

I counter your 'boring chips' argument Rita by suggesting perhaps Westerners have simple tastes and enjoy bland food.

In South London we used to get pie, mash and 'green licker' from the pie shops. We used to go to one in Lewisham. Green licker was a sort of parsley sauce.

Probably been hijacked by hipsters

I used to love chips and gravy when i worked at the pub, it was heaven at the end of a shift.

I also love chips, cheese and garlic mayonaise.

And a fantastic chip shop which served the most amazing mugs of tea from a huge tea urn. Never had such good tea.

Bland ?
Lovely crispy golden chips and fish fresh from the harbour - nah !

Maybe Im not into junk ( aka shitty food )

No one has mentioned Black Country chips yet. We lived there for a little while and were amazed by the phenomenon that is orange chips

I have no idea how they make them but they are pretty awesome. I wouldn't want to only have them and never normal ones though.

Stop rising to it, people!

Oh, and I'm from the West Country. I love gravy, I love chips, I really need one of those Parmos and am trying to decide if it is a good idea to go on holiday to the NE just to try one, or if that will make me feel sad because I won't be able to have them all the time.

we're just hungry

You're quite obviously incapable of dealing with the range of flavours that a dish with more components delivers Rita . A good, rich gravy detracts from nothing.

Grunt, I've spent roughly half my life in the north and half in London and East Anglia. And I've holidayed on the Isle of Wight for 46 years so the sample is a good spread.

Northern curry sauce - as I've experienced it in Yorkshire and the North-West - is thicker, a bit spicier and more flavourful. There's a particular 'tang' to it and it coats the chip like a delicious blanket, you can be sure you'll get virtually all all of it out of the tray.

In the south, every time I've tried it, it has been thinner - so the chips swim - and is a lot blander. And there will be lots left in the tray.

Maybe they are different makes, maybe the south waters it down more, either way, I save my chips and curry sauce orders for when I'm in the north to prevent disappointment and get full enjoyment.

Orange chips?

I've just googled them ubiks they are battered chips!

Sorry ubik1 I multiplied you.