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To hate that 'wrath' is CONSTANTLY pronounced wrong.

254 replies

RocketInMyPocket · 22/02/2015 11:59

It's roth, not rath fgs!!!
PS regional shmegional

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YesILikeItToo · 22/02/2015 17:52

Bang goes my theory, then, choco!

herecomesthsun · 22/02/2015 17:53

I pronounce 'r's with the wrong part of my mouth, so they don't quite come out right. I therefore avoid using words like "wrath if I can in speech. I think "wrath" in my head but I really don't know how I would pronounce it, although either way would seem alright to me. In real life I would say : anger, fury or even ire in preference to wrath!

AnnieMorel · 22/02/2015 17:57

Of course it's roth!

And while I'm here, can someone tell my friend it's 'wUrry', not 'wOrry'.

Behooven · 22/02/2015 17:57

We need to ask the Queen. wrath wrath wrath

RocketInMyPocket · 22/02/2015 17:58

I couldn't say a pure 'L' sound if my life depended on it.
Last year my son started learning his phonics, I NEVER learned phonics as a kid, so my natural instinct was 'muh' for M, instead of 'mmm'
So a couple of teacher friends taught me the 'pure' sounds.
Both pissed themselves listening to my attempt at 'L'

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BestIsWest · 22/02/2015 18:00

Roth obviously. It's a w-a word. You say 'woz' rather than 'waz' for 'was' don't you? Or wosp for wasp. instantly thinks of half a dozen words that disprove this theory

Anyway the Americans pronounce Moscow to rhyme with moo cow.

helpmekeepstrong · 22/02/2015 18:01

MrsFunnyFanny my mother wouldn't call it a mirror - she'd call it a 'glass' as in looking glass.... but she had pretensions because we certainly didn't live in an 'istoric hice. My father used to say 'on the stair' instead of on the stairs. See? It's no wonder I'm mixed up. I snigger at the American Rowt instead of route. My Northern gypsy husband used to make me say Castle (Cahstle) and Bath (Bahth) and giggle at me 'Get up there mandi's ratley! Dordy1 I cotch a rawnie, chavvie!' (wipes away a tear of hysteria)

RocketInMyPocket · 22/02/2015 18:02

Well, behooven the royal family are becoming more and more common sounding with every generation.

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RocketInMyPocket · 22/02/2015 18:06

How do you all pronounce plantain?
I had a disagreement with someone who told me It's not plant-in, it's plan-tain, The clues in the spelling
What about captain and mountain then, genius!?!

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Wibblypiglikesbananas · 22/02/2015 18:08

The correct pronunciation (roth) is nothing to do with being northern or southern, I'm northern and have always said wrath with an 'o' sound. Same as was...

FromSeaToShining · 22/02/2015 18:09

Since Moscow is really Moskva, every English pronunciation can only be an approximation. Of course, it would sound utterly pretentious to say Moskva when speaking English, like those idiots who spend a weekend in France and insist on exclaiming that they had a lovely time in Paree. Wink But Mos-co and Mos-cow are both perfectly acceptable pronunciations.

PiratePanda · 22/02/2015 18:10

Roth. But then I grew up saying cuhvent garden and sending people to cuhventry, which are very very old fashioned apparently.

larryphilanddave · 22/02/2015 18:11

For us, it's plarn-tehn. This is more or less how we were brought up saying it.

RocketInMyPocket · 22/02/2015 18:11

Stop lying wibbly It's only evil, arrogant southerners who say this!! Tsk tsk.

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wreckingball · 22/02/2015 18:12

Yep, it's roth.

FromSeaToShining · 22/02/2015 18:17

As someone asked above, how do you pronounce wrap?

emwithme · 22/02/2015 18:19

It's the Grapes of Roth but the Rath of Khan.

But then again, if I was to go to a certain city in Somerset and partake in my ablutions, I'd be having a bath in Barth.

(Working class midlander educated at a private school...my accent is confusing)

RedHairedGeek · 22/02/2015 18:25

some people from the south of england don't seem to be able to distinguish between their own accent and The English Language and English Speakers Worldwide

RobinHumphries · 22/02/2015 18:29

Roth

SconeRhymesWithGone · 22/02/2015 18:32

Plan-tain (equal stress).

I was shocked, shocked I tell you, to hear people on the Great British Bake-off (which is now shown in the US) pronounce pecan as PEE-cun. No! It's an American nut. It is pronounced pe-CAN (to rhyme with Anne) or pe-CAHN or for some in the South pee-can (equal stress).

Paul did pronounce it correctly, but I take it he has spent some time in the US.

I say Mos-co; a lot of Americans do. I do have to admit, however, that some of my compatriots pronounce Glasgow to rhyme with cow. I recently emailed a local newsreader on that very thing. Lucky for him the story did not involve Milngavie.

RobinHumphries · 22/02/2015 18:35

Scone actually rhymes with cone, like tone and stone

SconeRhymesWithGone · 22/02/2015 18:46

I'm thinking about changing my NN to SconeRhymesWithSpoon. Would anyone be able to argue with that?

RocketInMyPocket · 22/02/2015 18:58

Giggling at scones shock.
That reminds me of when I used to work with an American girl who told me off for saying 'Nike' like it rhymed with hike.
Because it was an American brand I should say it correctly (Nike-ee)
I told her when she learns how to say Adidas properly, then, and only then, will I say Nike-ee.

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FromSeaToShining · 22/02/2015 19:02

You should do that, Scone. Some people would lose their minds. Imagine the PMs you'd receive. Grin

Justawaterformeplease · 22/02/2015 19:11

I've found that many Americans tend to pronounce words, especially names, much more "properly" - sounding out every letter. So Birmingham is BirmingHAM, same with WareHAM and NeedHAM. Deirdre is - weirdly, to me - pronounced DeirdRA.

Similarly, they're more likely to use the original pronunciation of a loan word, so garage and Renaissance are pronounced in the French way (garAHGE and REN'sonce with a French accent) rather than in the anglicised way that is more common in England. Chile is pronounced ChilEH.

It's very interesting!