to want to move 'up north'?

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That is if South Yorkshire is actually considered 'up north'?
We have always lived in London and now DH might have a job offer near Sheffield and i'm actually surprised that really want to move.
If someone told me 3 years ago that we might be moving nearly 3h away from London i would have been laughing, but now it might be a reality and i'm really hoping it works out.

We would have less money each month, but i would be able to stay home with DC for a few years and we would have much more space, a lovely house, a garden and DH would have more free time to spend with us.
I'm just so sick and tired of squeezing into our tiny flat and worrying about the downstairs neighbours coming to complain again about the noise and the commute on packed tube trains and just generally people everywhere.

AIBU?
Maybe it's just a phase of being fed up and once we actually move i'll be missing London? This is really all i can think about the last few days and in my head i'm already decorating the house and imagining us there - kids happy playing, our family able to come and visit (they live in another country) and actually be able to stay with us comfortably.

I'd say there is a big difference in job availability between 'the north' and the far south west.

In theory, someone living in Sheffield could work in Sheffield, Leeds, Bradford or Manchester or Nottingham, so in reach of 5 large cities, which is a lot bigger scope for employment than Cornwall if that's where you mean.

and I am a northerner who has never watched the X-Factor

The only person I can think of from X Factor is Stacy Solomon. Should I base my idea of all Southerners on her? ignoring the fact half my family are Southerners

It actually really winds my southern FIL up that people go on about the north/south divide completely ignoring the deprivation in the south. He talks a lot about the decline of southern industry when he was growing up and that was in Surrey

There's certainly bigger scope for employment in the north than Cornwall but it's still industry dependant. Some sectors (eg construction, public services) have been hit far worse in the regions (including the north) than in London. It really depends on what you do for a living.

Why would anyone put up with the exorbitant house prices, long/expensive commutes etc in London if not for job security/availability...

And all the culture, travel and educational opportunities that are simply not available outside London.

My son got all upset that I'd "banned X factor" . For the record the only thing I'd banned was GTA but he was feeling raw

So we turned it on, and he turned it off 10 minutes later!

Aesops I too would like to know the last time you visited Liverpool because from your description it was around 1987.

You forgot the airport. 15 mins in a taxi from my house. So is the motorway. Both away from the city centre - In London you have to travel into/through the centre to actually get out of London on the train/plane

We don't have an underground, admittedly, but we don't need one because travelling above ground is so easy.

Curly what are you talking about? You don't drive in to the centre of London to get a plane!. It's Heathrow or Gatwick. Neither of which are in the centre of London.
London City airport is seven miles east of central London and is generally used by business travellers as limited destinations.

Are you sure about that, Enjoying or did you see it on the X Factor?

And if you don't want to travel in to london to get to Heathrow, you either drive out or you get the tube from pretty much any zone. So no need to travel in.

London is a very well thought out city. It's a bloody awesome city. Liverpool is a great city, but it is a drop in the ocean compared with the energy, the facilities, the weather (!), the business opportunities, the nightlife, the restaurants, the shopping, the culture, the everything.... compared with London

Ironically I don't watch X factor! Box set obsessive here! But whenever been waiting for dh to finish up the washing up before we settle down to an episode, I have caught snippets and it always seems to be northerners wailing about how they are "doing it for their great gran", and they are going to give it "a thousand million per cent effort"

Enjoying You don't need to be "up North" to get that mentality! It's everwhere. Adjusts flat cap, touches forelock and wedges another ferret down m' trousers

Sorry Enjoying but if you base your opinions on something you've seen on a reality tv show then I can never take anything you say seriously, ever again

So you're basing your opinions on a 'reality' TV show you don't actually watch?

You have to be taking the piss now with all this X Factor nonsense.

I've been reading an argument and forgot your post OP. Yes, move to south yorks. It's fab. If you miss London pop back for a weekend. Just be careful working your finances out first and make sure DH negotiates pay. Life is easier with some rainy day money, even gardens get boring after awhile and toddler groups cost a couple of pounds (well mine did but mums got a hot drink, children had milk and everyone got 2 biscuits).

Do people really eat out so often that the availability of 10 types of cuisine on the doorstep is important? I'd choose being able to see the sea and fields over that.

I found living in London very hard work. But, I have totally fecked my career (publishing) by living in Scotland. I don't care any more, but I do wish I had made different choices 20 years ago.

Move to London for the weather? Sorry you need to move to Cambridge or Grimsby. www.currentresults.com/Weather/United-Kingdom/average-yearly-precipitation.php

A couple of posters have mentioned northerners being touchy and defensive. Enjoyings comments may explain why.
I'm sure that people all over the country watch and take part in the x factor.

It snows.

Some good reasons not to come to Yorkshire here

Enjoyingmycoffee: I said "travel", I didn't mean by car. (Though I'm assuming most people in London would not take their own car and pay for at parking at Heathrow and Gatwick when catching a plane - maybe they would though? We never did -too expensive.). Taxi would cost too much anyway from many parts of London, unless you actually live near Gatwick or Heathrow. if you want to get there by public transport (tube or bus) from the other side of London it's quite difficult. Takes forever from some parts of London.

Whereas many cities (like Liverpool for example) are small and uncongested enough to hop in a taxi and be at the nearest airport in 20/25 mins from wherever you live in the city.