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AIBU to say that we can't move house as I can't face the upheaval?

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stoopstofolly · 13/02/2015 11:46

We currenty live in West London, in a nice but smallish house. 2 children, and DH and I both work FT. I am fortunate in that I work 20 mins away from home, and have flexible employers, whcih means I can be home for about 5-5.30- see the children, make dinner etc. However, my job is still stressful and I often have to work in the evenings to make up time. DH works very long hours in town. Given that my location/ hours make me the default parent, I have said that I'm not prepared to move more than 30-40 mins away from work so that one of us gets to see the children in the evenings.

DD (9) goes to a good local school, enjoys it and has a lot of friends. DS is due to go there in September, and we've obviously missed the cut off for applications for reception places elsewhere. We're also in the catchment for a good secondary school.

We'd like to move to get more space and perhaps a choice of good secondary schools. Given my need to stay close to work, we're looking at areas like Teddington, Hampton, Twickenham etc. Lovely areas and we could get a nice house. However, looking online on the council websites the good primary schools are full/ massively oversubscribed. Realistically we'd have to find a house, move, THEN apply for schools- DD likely to be initially offered a place at a school a long way away while we wait for a place to come up at a nearby school, and DS not likley to get a local reception place either- again, he'd probably have to go to a interim school a long way away and wait for a place to come up closer. It would be disruprive for DD in her last few years of primary, and hard for DS settling into school.

I'd have a longer commute to work. We'd have to have a much bigger mortgage which would be more stressful. All my current carefully arranged after school care/ DS's nursery would have to be rearranged in a new place.

After 3 sleepless nights worrying about all the ramifications I've just said that I don't think I can face it. DH wants to move for more space and a less urban environment, however he understands that his long hours and lack of flexibility mean that the burden/ hassle/ worry of this is likely to fall on my shoulders. We're both being very understanding about the other's position, but obviously don't agree. As DH pointed out- people move house all the time and make it work. However, I think that our specific location and school pressure just makes it impossible.
(Telling DH to step up and do more isn't really an option- he works 70+ hours a week with a long commute which is one of the reasons we can afford to move. He's a great husband and father at weekends and I'm OK with this- him pursuing this career is a decision we made together.)
Am I being a wimp? Any good stories of people doing this and making it work? Give it to me straight.

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PtolemysNeedle · 13/02/2015 11:55

I'm with you. Ultimately, one of you is going to have to make a much bigger compromise than the other.

There is a lot of sense in staying where you are for now, but is there anything you could do with the money you'll save by not moving to improve your living space in the house you have?

stoopstofolly · 13/02/2015 12:02

Ptolemy- we've done everything we can- extended kitchen into an already small back garden, done the loft. It's a terraced house so we've nowhere else to go.
Tbh it's not that I wouldn't love more space, nice area etc. It's just that I don't want it as much given the difficulties in implementing it all!

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tiggytape · 13/02/2015 12:08

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stoopstofolly · 13/02/2015 12:40

Unfortunately the locations we are looking at, my work and the children's school are far enough away to make that impossible- I did think about it. It would be over an hour commute in the morning to get them to school, then I'd have to get to work, then we'd have no after school support as currently we use an after school nanny who couldn't get them to the new house. Honestly, I'm stumped.

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bilbodog · 13/02/2015 13:23

this is one reason we moved out of London completely when the kids were small because even the school we were within spitting distance of, and in catchment area of, couldn't give us a space! it was crazy. It might be worth looking further out - if the train lines are good sometimes the comute might not take longer - might cost more - you could get more house for your money? Could you take a career break whilst the kids are very small and then go back?

stoopstofolly · 13/02/2015 13:32

Bilbodog- it's insane isn't it? The school we're in catchment for at the moment is 800 m away and we wouldn't get a place for our son in 2015 if we didn't already have a sibling there. The SE schools are creaking at the seams- my brother lives in Clapham and was 50th on the waiting list for the school 10 mins walk away!
We just didn't think about it enough when the children were smaller (and we had a lot less income!) I wouldn't do a career break- I'm really fortunate to have an interesting well paid flexible job in a good company and so I'm clinging onto it! Also, we'd need both incomes to afford to move (and do round and round we go...) I actually think we're trapped and it's so frustrating.

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TheRealMaryMillington · 13/02/2015 13:41

Do you like where you live? Do you like your house, your neighbours?

I don't see, how, on balance, seeing less of your kids/having more pressure in terms of travel time/potential school place difficulties or dealing with travel to school are going to improve your quality of life.

FWIW I wouldn't sweat it so much about primary schools (so long as there might be a place within a reasonable distance/at the same school) but the secondary admission would be my main concern.

chasingtherainbow · 13/02/2015 13:43

I could have written this with only slight differences!

I honestly don't what to do either. .. neither is wrong... but who gets final say? It seems like neither deserve to have final say if we are equals.. but then we just sit here making no decisions and nothing happens at all and he gets his way

No advice to give OP. But I understand the trapped feeling and the shitty school thing.

stoopstofolly · 13/02/2015 14:03

TherealMary- we do like our house and neighbours (which is fortunate as we're all so close together!Grin). I've just spoken to school admissions in a couple of the councils we are thinking about- they basically said both children would end up being bussed to a school with vacancies out of borough. Honestly, the few schools with spaces are failing ones.

Chasingtherainbow- I feel for you! We're been going round in circles and not making any decisions either. However the info about sending the children to failing schools miles away looks like it's been the final straw for DH. He's just emailed me a link to a house a BIT bigger in the next road. Nowhere near as nice as a house we could get out of London but perhaps the only compromise. Sad

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tiggytape · 13/02/2015 14:08

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rookiemere · 13/02/2015 14:17

YANBU.
It sounds like your current location suits you well in all but house size, therefore perhaps DH's suggestion of moving locally is the way to go. However make sure it's worth it - moving house is expensive what with stamp duty, movers costs, costs of selling etc, so be very sure that it's worth doing.

Is your house so very small ? Does each DC have their own bedroom? Would having more space really make you that much happier?

SaucyMare · 13/02/2015 14:17

I last moved house 18 years ago, aId that day i was never ,oving house Gain. I meant it i intend to die in this house.

QTPie · 13/02/2015 14:22

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museumum · 13/02/2015 14:26

For us the daily routine - travel to work / school / nursery and home again for dinner together is the MOST important thing and I'd happily stay squashed into a smaller home for that.
Have you thought about an attic conversion? Or even renting storage? We rent a garage up the road for our bikes etc.

stoopstofolly · 13/02/2015 14:32

QTpie- Bath is lovely- you're fortunate! DH works in the City and I work in West London- he could prob manage the commute but I'd find it impossible- I'd have to go into a major station and then 40 mins out again. What I do is quite specialised and is mainly the preserve of big companies/ banks etc so I'd struggle to get as good a job out of London. I could go and work for a bank in the City as well but would lose all work life balance. If we had a smaller mortgage then practically it would work if I got a smaller job, but I'd be sad to basically give up a career I've spent 20 years building.
Ahhhhhh

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cestlavielife · 13/02/2015 14:33

stay where you are and buy a holiday cottage for rural weekends [and to store stuff] .

Mini05 · 13/02/2015 14:57

Defo stay where you are!! Seen as your the one with all the runaround chore.
Nothing worse than getting stuck in traffic and worrying about kids/time to stressful

How's about staying put till DS goes to secondary school, are they as bad to get into?

codandchipstwice · 13/02/2015 15:03

Stay, overpay mortgage now so you can move to more rural further down the line. At this age/stage the balance is so fine re school/work/childcare I'd just be thankful it works for now and look again when care needs less

OliviaBenson · 13/02/2015 16:06

Can you convert your loft or extend at all OP?

chrome100 · 13/02/2015 16:18

I agree with you. We rent a flat in a bit of a dodgy student area BUT it's cheap, a 5 minute walk for me to work, and a 10 min cycle for DP. Don't underestimate the value of proximity. As I'm sure you know now, being so near and having no commute means you have so much more time, energy (and money!).

We have saved enough up for a deposit on a house but have agreed we are not in any hurry to move so aren't even going to look. We like where we are. We can't afford to buy close to work and for me, at the moment, that's the most important thing.

Wibblypiglikesbananas · 13/02/2015 16:20

Hi OP. We used to live in Teddington, now live overseas, but have kept a property there. We are currently wondering whether to move back in time for DC1 to start school Sept 2016. What I would say is that the school place thing is a real concern. The local schools are massively oversubscribed, it's ridiculous. DC1's birth year, 2011, was predicted to cause a huge problem with school intakes locally as there just weren't/won't be enough places. Despite the 4-5 year warning the LA had, I don't see much having been done to accommodate the extra children needing places. One school, Stanley, was extended recently, but there simply isn't space for the number of children.
I think we will ultimately sell our place there and move further out. It wasn't what we intended originally and the area is lovely - Bushy Park, walking down the river to Kingston or Richmond, close to Heathrow etc (though that's also a bad point as airport noise is increasingly prevalent). I think it's also telling that of my original Teddington NCT group, every single couple is now moving further out of town. You can get so much more for your money, and good schools, eg in Farnham (though trains are crap).
If I were you, I'd stay where you are and do anything possible to extend/loft conversion maybe? Secondary schools in Teddington/Kingston are also massively oversubscribed and I predict further problems getting your eldest a place at your first choice.
PM me if I can help any further.

limegoldfinewine · 13/02/2015 16:23

Move to a non terraced house in the same area! Find a house with more potential to grow into.

Anewmeanewname · 13/02/2015 16:57

Agree with others, the obvious thing to do is to find a larger property in the same area.

stoopstofolly · 13/02/2015 18:08

Some brilliant messages- many thanks. We are as extended/ converted as we can be, so that's not an option.
Realistically we are stuck here- it's not a bad place and we're settled but it's not what either of us envisaged with 2 children.
Wibbly- thank you for the salutary reminder about secondary schools. It's just the final nail in the coffin of my suburban dream!

Basically we needed to be in situ in the area we planned to stay in before DC 1 was 3., and we just didn't have the foresight! Feeling a bit bitter- ironically DH has coped much better- now off happily googling slightly larger houses in the same area!

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caker · 13/02/2015 18:28

Have a big clear out and declutter, you'll make some space and maybe find your current house is big enough after all!