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AIBU?

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aibu to think this is a bit shit?

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MsMarvel · 10/02/2015 20:16

Started a new job at the start of the year. In my previous job, I deliberately worked double my required notice so that I didn't leave them in the lurch over the Xmas season.

Just found out that to reward the good results the unit got over the Xmas season, all the staff have receiveved a bonus. And I've not been included.

aibu to think this is a bit shit? I left myself only 4 days between New job and old job, to help them out, and I've not been included in the bonus for the period of time where I was still a full time member of staff.

It's just a long line of reasons why I left the company, but it feels like the final straw. No. I don't work for them they can't fob me off with telling me it's all experience, or incentive to progress, when they give me extra responsibilities for fuck all extra pay.

would I be unreasonable to chase up why I haven't been included or should I just add it to the reasons I left and forget about it? It's really pissed me off.

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Sn00p4d · 10/02/2015 20:21

I think that's pretty standard, although agree it's shit.
Any place I've worked where bonus has been paid a month in lieu (usually call centres and sales) it's well known that for your notice period/last month of work it's feet up as you won't get any commission on sales anyway.
At the end of the day you don't work there and didn't work there when the payments were made so you're not entitled to anything. Let it goooooooo.

mommy2ash · 10/02/2015 20:21

you aren't staff anymore so i wouldn't expect them to contact you to give you a bonus. ive never heard of this happening anywhere

TwoAndTwoEqualsChaos · 10/02/2015 20:23

Really? Even if she was there to do the work? As you have a job, and as you did them a favour and they know it, would you lose anything by challenging it?

WookeyMonster · 10/02/2015 20:24

YANBU and it is shit. However I'd be inclined to let it go - let it go - let it go - let it goooooooooooooooooooo

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MsMarvel · 10/02/2015 20:26

Normally instead of getting a bonus it's a staff night out. Which old staff who worked over Xmas have been invited to.

Instead of having a night out, they decided to just divide up the money given by head office between the staff. So it's not an official bonus system with laid out rules.

If they had had the standard night out I would have been included and got my fair share.

If I had known that this would happen I would have left after my minimum notice. I went out of my way to help them out and hey can't even include me in an informal allocation of Staff night out shares of money.

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MsMarvel · 10/02/2015 20:28

If anything, they would potentially have something to lose by leaving me unhappy, as I know work for a company that audits my previous company.

But that's all hypotheitical because I would NEVER be anything other than fair and professional. But yes it is people that I would be potentially dealing with again in the future in a different capacity.

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ClashCityRocker · 10/02/2015 20:29

It's utterly shit, YANBU.

But I don't think there's a lot you can do about it, I'm afraid.

LadyLuck10 · 10/02/2015 20:30

It's shit but you would gain nothing by challenging them. What would you expect them to about it now?

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MsMarvel · 10/02/2015 20:43

I would expect to ghetto my fair share of money. It's not a massive amount, but I feel I have nothing to lose now by querying it. I spent long enough going the extra mile for them for nothing extra, and biting my tongue because I needed the job. But now I don't, it's almost like this represents all the little things that I had to let go over the last two years, and there's finally a chance for me to stand up for myself and get what I'm owed, without worrying about any repercussions

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MsMarvel · 10/02/2015 20:44

Get* lol

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Purplehonesty · 10/02/2015 20:55

That is crap but I would think also fairly standard.

I temped with a firm for ages once and helped organise the xmas do which was in a hotel.

A few days before the party they told me I wasn't invited because I wasn't permenant staff and it was to thank those who had been there all year. And also could I stay late the night of the party to answer the phones....

I was a trifle pissed off to say the least as I was the only one not invited! I didn't stay late either I went to work for another firm.

egnahc · 10/02/2015 21:01

It is often a requirement of a bonus that you are an employee at the time it is paid as well as at the time it is accrued.

IKnewYou · 10/02/2015 21:02

I think you have nothing to loose by questioning it. As long as you are polite and buisnesslike I can't see any reason for asking.

childlessormore · 10/02/2015 21:05

look at the terms and conditions of bonus payments (hopefully in your contract of employment you had with them) and see if you qualify. If you didnt qualify then you will just have to chalk it up to experience - in future read your contract and if it doesnt include things like that ask them in writing to confirm agreement before you agree to help them out.

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MsMarvel · 10/02/2015 21:06

I know that most places have that as a requirement, but I've only ever seen it when it's an existing bonus scheme with terms and conditions laid out. There is nothing laid out for this bonus that outlines the restrictions placed on it. Surely without this they can't state that?

my new company have that as a requirement, which I have already been sent a document outlining the details of next years scheme.

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PervyMuskrat · 10/02/2015 21:10

As egnahc says, most contractual bonuses will have a clause in the employment contract that says bonuses will not be paid in notice period. Discretionary (and contractual to some extent) bonuses tend to be given as an incentive - the company will see no need to incentivise you if you're leaving/have left. It sucks for the employee but makes sense for the company.

esiotrot2015 · 10/02/2015 21:17

I'd forget about it tbh & thank your lucky stars you've got a lovely new job

Look forwards not backwards & who knows you might get a huge bonus next Xmas

Viviennemary · 10/02/2015 21:17

I can see why you are annoyed and hurt. You helped them out and they didn't include you in the bonus. No wonder so many people have no loyalty to companies when this is the way they are rewarded. It sucks.

CuddlesfromChickens · 10/02/2015 21:22

It's irritating of course but pretty standard. I've never heard of any firm which pays a bonus to former employees.

itsmeitscathy · 10/02/2015 21:24

I'd be asking for the money, what have you got to lose?

Callooh · 10/02/2015 21:25

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MsMarvel · 10/02/2015 21:29

I'm actually annoyed with myself for being so upset about this!

I put in about a year longer with the old company than people were telling me I should have, but I persevered, and argued that it was worth sticking out with because there were good prospects. And it's all just been thrown back in my face.

I absolutely love my new job, and wouldn't change it for the world, but I still resent the time wasted in my old job.

But you're right, I need to stop dwelling on it and forget about them.

In a way though, it's harder because I will still be dealing with the same people that have been involved with this. So it's harder to move one when I will have to still be dealing with my old area manager who decided not to include me.

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londonrach · 10/02/2015 21:32

Sorry you left the job and moved on before bonus is paid. Flip it here. Dh started new job in jan and was shocked to get a very small bonus as he was part of the team. He did question it as just joined and they said as he is part of the team he gets it.

Reekypear · 10/02/2015 21:39

A good deed never goes unpunished.

lougle · 10/02/2015 21:39

You left. You severed your loyalty by leaving but you expect them to maintain loyalty to you.

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