to be actually surprised, in a way kind of freaked out, that you can buy a pram like this?

[Mintyy]

presumably for girl & boy twins.

I know, I know, OBVIOUSLY there are genuinely shocking things in the world that this does not even begin to compare to, and NO it is not the only thing I need to worry about but ... I just seriously don't like this pram. I guess the gender stereotyping from birth wrankles, and when it is put side by side like this so blatantly it seems even more crass than usual. I don't know why else I get this really unsettled reaction.

But aibu?

Hahah! I like it!

Heartisaspade thank you.

In the cold light of day I did lose my temper a bit but Nutella's post did really annoy me.

Cuddles from chickens I couldn't agree with you more! This is a really nasty thread. FFS it's only colours! I like blue. I have bought my son a blue buggy. I would have bought the same if I had a girl but apparently I am gender stereotyping because he is a boy! The poster who posted about the twins in blue and pink. You sound horrible. I'd like to see you walk a mile In that mums shoes and understand how difficult twins are. Then you might be judging a little less!

Primrose

I'm a feminist, I agree that there is a fight to be had to improve the lives of women all over the world.

That fight will not be won in the clothes aisle in Mothercare people.

i clicked on this thread thinking i was going to see something different/odd. its just a twin pram :/ ..... boring

"Assumption is the Mother of all Fuck ups, you should be ridding yourself of them. I feel sorry for your children, whatever pram colour you've chosen, if you are teaching them to make assumptions about people, based on what they think they are seeing."

Who is that addressed to Birdsgottafly? What a disgusting thing to say.

I have that buggy, it's great, and there are umpteen different coloured hoods you can choose. I have those particular colours for my kids (not twins) and yes it is far to expensive but equally very good quality,

It isn't the pram itself, it is that you would immediately flag the different sexes of your young children in such an obvious and visual way, not just in their clothing and the colour of their sippy cups or the toys they play with, but even in the pram you push them around in. I don't like the other pink/blue buggies either, no.

As I am a woman, should I only drive around in a red or pink car?

As I said in my op, obviously it is something that many people don't care about, or they even LIKE the colour coding. But I don't. I don't like gender stereotyping and this seems a very visual example of that, happening from birth. However, my uneasiness about these conventions (which are shared by many) does not mean anyone needs to feel sorry for my children ffs.

What I don't get is how, if you have boy/girl twins, you can keep both enough blue AND enough pink clothes/bibs/cups clean for them to have their own colour.

It does matter to me how others dress their children because by the time they are 4 and have had 4 years of it I don't want to have to give my DS long egalitarian explanations to trot out when someone tells him he can't wear pink. I'd rather he just put on his starry top and people said "ooh look stars!".

Jesus it's a pram, and it's not 2 grand it's 1200 quid. If someone wants to spend that on a pram so be it. And the colour, who gives a damn.

OP, you need a hobby.....

And bingo! I need a hobby eh? What an intelligent response.

Jesus, let people dress their babies in pink or blue if they want! I cannot believe people have said that they judge people for giving children pink or blue cups/toys/bibs whatever! Not everyone bring their child up gender nuteral or whatever, doesnt mean they're going to back hand a little boy for playing with a dolls house! Cannot do anything these days without someone judging you every step of the way

onthematleavecountdown

OP posts a posts about something she finds amusing.

This means she has no life needs a hobby.

You have time to post about something that you think is a non issue, who needs hobby?

Maybe your dd just looked like a boy and she used the red coat as an excuse as she was embarrased.

Oh I had that too! DD aged 9mths or so was wearing a bright green woolly hat and the builder working on the house next door said "Little boy is it?" I said "Girl actually" and he said "Why's she wearing a green hat then?" I had no idea that green wad reserved exclusively for boys; or alternatively that girls were banned from every colour other than pink...

Behooven - entirely possible in my case but his phrasing did imply that I'd broken the rules!

The whole idea of clothes to identity a child's sex is relatively recent, and pink was originally for boys and blue for girls. History of pink and blue. DM has a lovely portrait of her dad as a toddler (would have been early 1920s) with shoulder length ringlets wearing a beautiful white dress with pink and yellow smocking.

At a similar age, DS used to wears t shirt like this. He looked lovely in it with his pale blue eyes and light blonde hair.

Nutella and Mr Nutella sound delightful.

The only place I've ever seen anyone get worked up about gender stereotyping, to such a degree, is Mumsnet.

Like many on MN, I am very anti gender stereotyping. However, there's a group of people on here who take it too far. According to some, it's fine to let your older-than-toddler-aged son wear a dress to a party but buying a pink pram for a girl is not.

"Who is that addressed to Birdsgottafly? What a disgusting thing to say."

No it isn't.

Smirking and judging someone, who likes pink, for a girl etc, is disgusting.

It doesn't mean that the Parent believes in Gender Stereotyping, in ways that matter.

They may take the opportunity to dress and accessorise their baby in a way that they think cute, before the serious business of raising a well rounded adult, starts.

As said, there is a lack of posts were a pink pram was bought for their sons.

Ugly and expensive, I wouldn't buy it myself but I can imagine at least one of my friends would find it cute. Different stokes for different folks. I can't wait to have a baby and dress it in blue and pink to see if it will confuse people.

Yes it IS to disagree with someone by saying you feel sorry for their children. Cheap, low shot, very stupid. You should be ashamed.

I agree with Birds. I saw nothing "disgusting" in her words. (I talked about people who take it too far just up there.) I'd chose the non-judgmental person every time over the person who judged a parent purely because they chose that pram.