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To not send my dd into school?

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Littlefluffyclouds81 · 05/02/2015 12:06

I'm having a crisis with my dd age 10 and really don't know what to do.

I have been a lone parent since she was 1, and suffered quite badly with depression when she was little. We have not had an easy time of it, I have struggled financially and emotionally and through no fault of our own (private rentals) we have moved 10 times during her lifetime. She has gone to 4 different schools, but she was at her first school for 5 years. She left her last school because she was being bullied because she has a long term medical problem with her bladder which means she leaks urine and it can smell quite bad (she wears pads to minimise this).

To add to all that, having got things fairly stable and built up a fairly successful business by the time she was 5, all that went to pot when I met somebody and accidently got pg soon afterwards, dd2 is now 4. Her father is a complete lunatic who put me through hell for 2.5 years, followed by another 2.5 years of going to court 19 times to protect dd2 (he now has zero contact).

I'm ashamed to say that whilst all this has been going on, dd1 is the one who has been sidelined. She has always been so placid and seemingly content doing her own thing, whereas dd2 was like a whirling dervish from the word go, and is very demanding of my time.

Currently we have a secure place to live (housing association) in a really nice area, and the local school have been fantastic with regards to dealing with dd1's needs. Apart from her medical problem she suffers from anxiety and finds social situations very difficult. She doesn't really have any friends at school, although the children are kind to her and the teachers regularly encourage them to ask dd1 to play, although she will generally say no and sit on the step outside the classroom reading her book. She has been at that school for around 1.5 years now.

Her teacher is fantastic and admits that she has a real soft spot for dd1. She has expressed her concerns that dd1 seems very unhappy, and depressed, and also has episodes in class where she will just shut down and it's like she can't hear anyone. Her teacher has had an educational psychologist to come in and assess dd1, and she also speaks to the school counsellor once a week, although she hates it and says it doesn't help.

Dd1 has been unwell the last few days and so off school. I went into her room and found her sitting on her bed holding her class photo of her first school and weeping. She then literally completely dissolved and was howling like a baby. I had never seen her like that, and she was telling me that she hates school and she hates everything about her life. I took her to the doctors the next day and they have referred her to camhs. She was off again yesterday but I had to take her in today as she was over her lurgy, she was crying this morning and I really didn't want to make her go.

Her teacher just phoned to say dd1 has been crying all morning, and her teacher was crying too. She isn't doing this for effect, she is genuinely really unhsppy and struggling. Her teacher has also suggested that dd1 is assessed for autism, so I passed that on to the gp.

I don't know what to do. My instincts tell me that I shouldn't be forcing her to go to school but I don't know what else to do. I know there's home educating but I am a lone parent doing a degree 5 days a week so that would mean leaving uni.

I know I have made mistakes and I feel awful about that but I want to make things right, I just don't know how to do it.

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curlyweasel · 05/02/2015 15:30

there

good job i don't he dd...

YesIDidMeanToBeSoRudeActually · 05/02/2015 15:31

OP, I don't have much advice for your current situation but I can see you have already had some (apart from TooHasty, let me just say I would much rather smell of pee and anything else than be a vile insensitive twat Smile)

But I did want to post and say that secondary school may actually be fantastic for her. I have a DD with SN who had problems at primary, bullying, nasty HT etc, and I was dreading secondary, but it has been BRILLIANT for her. Kind supportive teachers, good group of friends who are similar in nature to her (I didn't think there would be any!), she has absolutely blossomed. To see her so happy at school has just been amazing, she won an award last term and actively looks forward to school. Such a difference, so I wanted to give you hope that if she does go to the secondary, hopefully hers will be a success story. (I said we would give her a year and then HE if she didn't like it, so I know how conflicted you may be feeling).

I really hope some specialist advice will help you and her. Any worries about assessments/autism etc, the SN boards are brilliant.

GokTwo · 05/02/2015 15:32

That's a really upsettting situation, I feel for you both. I have a friend who is going through something similar with her DS at the moment and she feels absolutely overwhelmed. I don't think it would be terrible not to send her in at the moment. Which of us would be able to learn if we were so distressed? It seems, from your post, like she needs some tlc and some space right now. I agree with Primary. I think, in your situation, I would speak to the local authority and see what they have to offer. Best of luck to you all xx

YesIDidMeanToBeSoRudeActually · 05/02/2015 15:33

Kidnset would be a very good idea indeed.

YesIDidMeanToBeSoRudeActually · 05/02/2015 15:33

Kidsnet even. And a TeensNet.

curlyweasel · 05/02/2015 15:35

You mean Kidsnet (TM) as invented by me? just in case it goes global Grin

Primaryteach87 · 05/02/2015 15:35

Firstly, try to book an appointment with the nicest GP at your surgery. Explain that your DD is suffering with extreme social anxiety, school phobia. You might want to ask your DD to write how it makes her feel, so you can use that as evidence. Some parents I know have resorted to filming their child in the height of distress, but obviously you'd need to talk to DD about that and think whether that feels right for you. Ask them to provide a sick note stating DD is not well enough to be at school, so you can use the time to care for DD and explore possible alternatives. They might ask you what you think will be different in, say two weeks. You can give them examples such as I will have met with school, rung Red Balloon, explored home tutors etc. In most cases, this should work. If it doesn't straight away, just keep, calmly, insisting that you would love DD to be at school but she's not safe and well enough to be there. Usually they give in eventually.
Sorry that ^ was a bit point by point, but I know how hard it is to think clearly/be strong when you're at your wits end.

TooHasty · 05/02/2015 15:43

so someone has made the leap that she is autistic based on one person's suggestion for a test.
I am sorry if I did not word the 'smell' post delicately enough, but my point still remains.To have to leave a school because you have been bullied for smelling must take an enormous toll on the confidence of an 8/9 yo.I just can't understand why proper arrangements weren't put in place to prevent this.Probably now the girl is afraid to be near the other DCs incase she smells and that is why she won't join in with their games.

Ems1812 · 05/02/2015 15:49

toohasty you are just being unhelpful. Rather than trying to give helpful advice to the OP, you are nitpicking & ranting about things that you think should have been done. As the OP has said in PP, arrangements have been put in place to with regards to the urine problem, her DD wears pads & regularly changes them, I'm not sure what else she could do that she isn't already doing so what would you suggest seeing as you appear to know everything?

Have also reported you.

Littlefluffyclouds81 · 05/02/2015 15:49

yesidid that's really encouraging, and I really hope the same happens for my dd.

primary thanks again, that's so helpful and be as point by point as you like, my head feels like it's full of broken biscuits right now.

Dd's teacher just phoned and said that dd cheered up a little bit but was still really sad all day, and I told her I was planning to keep dd off for now and take her back to the doctors tomorrow, and she thought that sounded like a good idea. I am going to have a meeting with her and the head next week.

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YesIDidMeanToBeSoRudeActually · 05/02/2015 16:05

Oh ignore TooHasty, its not the first time he or she has been offensive about DC with SN.

Please ignore or report, not worth engaging OP, particularly for you OP with enough on your plate without fuckwits like this.

AmantesSuntAmentes · 05/02/2015 16:20

re penfriends, I wonder if schools or local community centres could act as c/o addresses, using a child's first name or nickname. Parents could collect and review mail before passing it on to the recipient? I know when I had a pen friend as a child, it was a whole lot more relaxed but it was fun, beneficial and there must be safety measures which could enable it?

I love the idea of kidsnet too!

I really do hope you find resolution to your current problems, op. I have two dc in school and two dc ehe. My little 6yo was aggressively attacked by five little ruffians at school today, so that may well become three or four ehe very soon! If I had a Steiner school to hand, I'd probably make use of it Smile

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