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AIBU?

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Original poster

To go to A and E because I can't get a doctors appointment?

157 replies

SheThinksShesPeople · 02/02/2015 19:08

I have the contraceptive implant, had it put in in September. Since then I have put on two stone, got spot all over my face and back, feel like killing myself and bled constantly.

I decided to give it a few months to see if it would settle down but it hasn't. Beginning of Jan phoned gp surgery for app to have it removed. Surgery works on a system whereby the doctor, rather than receptionist calls you back to make appointment. The doc that can remove implants only works Mondays. Three mondays in a row now I have booked with reception for doc to call me to make appointment, they haven't. I went into surgery at 5.30 today to try and speak to said doctor to make appointment as they hadnt called me but she'd already left. So arranged another phone call for next monday.

How the fuckity fuck do I get this out of my arm? Sexual health clinic only open to under 25's, walk in centre shut down, 101 tells me to see gp. Can i go to a and e? Perform surgery on myself? Any other ideas?

OP posts:
EdSheeran · 02/02/2015 20:37

It doesn't matter what's underlying the suicidal feelings. If you are actively suicidal and very, very close to harming yourself so seriously, it is a medical emergency.

Tinks42 · 02/02/2015 20:38

I can sort of understand there wouldnt be anyone there to take out a coil but the OP has an implant just under her skin so therefore that would be easily removed.

TheWitTank · 02/02/2015 20:39

Nobody is on their 'high horse'. Reread your post. You were really cutting and abrupt to someone who is clearly desperate and extremely unhappy. 'For gods saking' etc and being 'incensed' Hmm at someone in a bad way, confused and seeking advise (not a bollocking) isn't helpful. You could have worded your post completely differently but still said what you wanted to say.

MrsDeVere · 02/02/2015 20:40

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Pishedorf · 02/02/2015 20:42

Tinks they're not easy to remove just because they're under the skin. (I've removed plenty, they're tricky sometimes) plus you have to have extra training to remove them.

Tinks42 · 02/02/2015 20:42

Have PM'd OP and leaving this thread now.

Totally gobsmacked about the lack of support.

sockmatcher · 02/02/2015 20:44

I completely get where you are coming from.
I've been like this with the implant- I felt suicidal.
I also nearly went to a&e with copper coil issues.

Where are you? There will be sexual health services. I cried down the phone at sexual health led and she found appointment
Also consider new surgery

FightOrFlight · 02/02/2015 20:46

OP are you feeling actively suicidal at this moment? If so then access A&E with regards to your mental health.

Do you have a partner or family who can look after your son while you go to A&E? Bear in mind if you are a danger to yourself then you probably won't just be sent away with a few tablets, you may be admitted to a psychiatric ward for observation.

It's highly unlikely there will be someone who can remove the implant tonight but the psych team will hopefully arrange for their sexual health dept to remove it tomorrow.

Pishedorf · 02/02/2015 20:49

I think people need to calm down.

OP can I ask, are you actually suicidal or was it a turn of phrase out of (understandable) frustration? Flowers

Original poster
SheThinksShesPeople · 02/02/2015 20:49

Thanks everyone for the kind messages. I've had a bath and feel more human. I don't mean to be melodramatic, just never felt like this before. I was googling how implant is removed this afternoon to see if I could do it. I didn't tell gp surgery this, they offered to have mental health team come and assess me but i'm alone with ds until dh comes home later and don't want anyone to think i'm not coping.

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wtfhappened · 02/02/2015 20:51

Idontsee....I don't need an apology (but it's accepted Grin). I knew my comments would get the brigade out of their cages.

I am far from heartless, I (more than most) understand and have huge empathy for mental health issues (I have spent time on a unit when a teen) but I have been an A&E nurse for nigh on 14 years and have seen how our service has struggled in recent times because people think it is a given right to turn up because they cannot get a dr's appointment. And yes, attending the department because you want an implant out (suicidal thoughts aside) does 'clog up the department'.

Where would you guys place this girl after triage.......In minor injuries? Is it an injury? In majors? Is it really major (chest pain and such like is classed as 'major')? How about resus? Will she need acute 1-on-1 care?

So given the question above (and I am deliberately taking the MH issues out here) do you still think I'm being out of order for saying A&E is not the place to go (and yes I perhaps should be less angry myself but I am very passionate about this!)

Idontseeanysontarans · 02/02/2015 20:56

OP glad you're back and feeling better - is DH due home soon? Wherever you go tomorrow about this can someone go with you?
Wtf no worries but those of us who were telling her to go to A&E were talking about the suicidal thoughts not to have the implant out - I think maybe we all got a bit mixed up there.

Original poster
SheThinksShesPeople · 02/02/2015 20:56

Totally understand wtf, just don't know where to go. Anyway dh is taking me to London tomorrow to see a private doctor who will take it out.

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Idontseeanysontarans · 02/02/2015 20:57

That's great news OP Smile

wtfhappened · 02/02/2015 20:58

Oh and MERRY, how I smiled when I read your post. I am very good at my job, have many letters of thanks from patients over the years. My job is a labour of love (it's difficult to explain) and I have never had a negative comment about my bedside manner (quite the opposite).

SardineQueen · 02/02/2015 21:00

OP I am glad you are feeling better and your DH will be home soon, and that you have a plan to get it out tomorrow.

Good luck and all will be well, don't forget the hormones take a while to get out your system as others have said so look after yourself. I have read on here so many people who have had mental health issues related to hormonal contraception and said it is like a fog lifting so hang on in there Smile

LeoandBoosmum · 02/02/2015 21:02

Wtfhappened, you sound very callous. I hope the OP is okay and comes back to let us know how she is. It's abysmal that she should have been put off for 3 weeks. I would advise her, if she can't quickly get help anywhere else very soon, to try A&E. Feeling as she does (and the cause being the implant) the likelihood is she won't need the mental health team once it's been removed.

EdSheeran · 02/02/2015 21:02

I am really pleased to hear you're getting it removed. Sorry some people have been such twats on this thread. Hope you're ok. Flowers

LeoandBoosmum · 02/02/2015 21:03

Thanks for coming back to update us OP - I'm glad you're getting it out. :)

Sallystyle · 02/02/2015 21:04

WTF is up with the arseholes on here today?

I am glad you are getting it out OP Thanks

FightOrFlight · 02/02/2015 21:04

Glad to hear you are feeling more positive OP Flowers

Your best bet is definitely contacting a sexual health clinic as you are clearly getting nowhere fast with your GP. Hopefully you can get a relatively fast-track appointment due to the way it is making you feel.

If you do have suicidal feelings please don't hesitate to call your local Crisis team for support and advice.

Sidge · 02/02/2015 21:05

Please don't try and remove your own implant.

And it's unlikely that anyone in A&E or a minor injuries unit will be able to remove it (or willing to do so). It's not that straightforward - you need to know what you're doing and unless that staff have been trained to remove implants I can't imagine they'll be too keen. And whilst I appreciate youre suffering and want it out, in clinical terms it's not an emergency.

(Oh and taking a coil out is easier than taking an implant out!)

Hope you get it sorted soon OP.

SardineQueen · 02/02/2015 21:05

wtf with all due respect you most certainly did say what people have got so upset with you about, saying OP had "issues" (nice use of sarcy quotes) and saying she would clog up a&e and even if she was having a mental health crisis (which you made it clear you strongly doubted) they'd send her packing with some ADs.

"jesus christ, are you fucking serious??!! You can't get your GP to take out your implant so you want to clog up an ACCIDENT and EMERGENCY department? You say you feel suicidal and people have said 'yes, go to A&E for that' but seriously, all that would be done is they would refer you to the on-call psychiatry team to talk about your 'issues'. They don't remove implants either, you know that , right? And they don't have the resources to refer you onto anyone who could remove your implant. So you will leave the department (possibly after waiting up to 8 hours for the team to come and see you. Oh and that's about 3-4 hours after you have waited to be triaged) with exactly the same issue (but maybe with a prescription for anti-depressants). "

It was an outrageous post and your "oh poor me so misunderstood" and telling people to get off their "high horses" and that you'd "get the brigade out of their cages" what the hell does that even mean. Jesus christ.

And on that note I'm leaving but bloody hell you're a piece of work aren't you.

FightOrFlight · 02/02/2015 21:05

Typed too slow Blush

Glad to hear you are seeing a doctor tomorrow, that's brilliant.

SaucyJack · 02/02/2015 21:08

The question was "AIBU to go to A&E to get the implant removed?" and that is the question that a lot of us were answering.

I did not get the impression from the OP that she had a bottle of pills in her hand and was genuinely about to take them.

If everyone who ever threatened or contemplated suicide to any degree went to A&E then there'd be no room for anyone else.