To think it's ok to use a jacuzzi at 10 weeks pregnant because it's no different from a bath?!

[Whateverittakes3]

I have a friend's birthday coming up and we're going to a spa for the day. I understand it would not be advisable to use the sauna/steam room but I don't see why it's not wise to use a jacuzzi. The ones I've used before have been a nice warm bath temperature, possibly slightly cooler than the baths I have so I don't see the risk of overheating. Am I missing something? (This is baby no 3 for me so I'm a bit more relaxed about everything!)

I don't think it's practicall possible to dictate the temperature of a jacuzzi at a spa.

I used a jacuzzi too during my pregnancies too , but it was my own one at home which meant I could be scrupulous with hygeine and have a safe temperature.

blu- lovely!!

Although I did say "tiny faecal particles" rather than a tiny amount of faecal particles. Presumably if they were larger someone would fish them out with a tea strainer.

blu I think BigBlue was referring to the size of the particles not disputing that there are a large amount of fecal particles in the water. In other words, just because you can't see a big jobby floating in the water it doesn't mean there isn't fecal matter being swirled around.

Cross poo particle post

In the days when abortion was illegal, a very hot bath and a lot of gin was meant to bring on a miscarriage.

Pertinent words there being "meant to". Didn't actually work though.

If raising your body temp past 37 degrees is damaging to a foetus, how come women who live in countries where temps are often above that manage to have babies? Or anyone who gets a fever when pregnant? OR anyone who has baths more than lukewarm, or who sits close to a fire, or anything else? Sounds like yet another nonsensical rule for pregnancy to me.

If there is other stuff you can do at the spa while you're there (swim, pregnancy massage) I'd go for sure. I did a spa day when pregnant and just sat on the edge of the jacuzzi with my legs dangling in, which was nice enough. (Though not as good as actually sitting in it, true)

grockle I had flu whilst 7wks preg, ended up with mmc & erpc.

Op, is it really worth the risk? In my book it wouldn't be to be honest.

Yes, but its unlikely it was caused by the flu (I've had 4 m/c, none coincided with a high temp, however I did have an illness with high temp in a successful pregnancy). That doesn't answer my question.

Is it worth the risk is always trotted out for these pregnancy rules. It's not a good catch all answer, unless you want to spend 9 months in a bubble consuming filtered water and fuck all else.

I used to work in a laboratory testing Jacuzzi water samples for hotels, health clubs etc. I have never set foot in one since.

I didn't think the jets firing at the baby was a problem but that it encourages the blood flow to the periphery of the body, away from the heart / brain. That's why some people faint after them. Reducing the blood flow to the baby is the risk factor of the jets I think.

"Cross poo particle post"

I looked into this when I was first pregnant. Apparently there is actually no evidence that the temperature would cause problems, but at the same time it hasn't actually been researched. So the advice is based on 'possibility' of risk rather than actual risk. The only study that has been done is on Finnish women using saunas while pregnant (which is apparently completely normal there) and there was no evidence of them causing harm to the baby.

On the lack of any hard evidence, I decided I was happy to take the risk and just made sure I got out at regular intervals when I was feeling too hot. Baby is still here at 22 weeks and appears more than healthy!

There's living in a bubble and then there's taking reasonable risk. I have four children and have never managed to live in a bubble with any of them, but I also wouldn't take an unnecessary risk. So I didn't go in a jacuzzi for 9months, not a v g deal imo.

I wouldn't. They're full of nasty germs and bacteria.

But jets firing from below can force dirty water into the vagina and urethra.

I have been trained in the use of hot tubs and there are many infections you could get that could harm your unborn baby. I wouldn't risk it. There are many that smoke and drink, I wouldn't do that either.

I bet you've taken lots of unnecessary risks, its just that the majority people are very very bad at properly assessing risk.

What would make you most upset:
1.Staying out of the jacuzzi whilst pregnant.
Or 2. Increasing your risk of miscarriage.
It's simple really.

It's not. Thats a daft argument. What evidence that you have that it does in fact increase the risk of miscarriage? THAT is the point. Avoiding everything that might possibly have some theoretical risk or might not, without any actual thought process or proper risk assessment is not the answer.
You can blindly follow every guideline for pregnancy ever given, even the ones that contradict the other ones, if you want, I prefer to assess actual evidence and make sensible decisions based on logic and science.

The only confirmed finding I can see right now is a slightly elevated risk of neural tube defects if the body temperature is raised above 39 degrees during weeks 2-4 of pregnancy.

grockle- but studies show that jacuzzi use does increase the risk of miscarriage. In fact women who used a jacuzzi on even one occassion during early pregnancy were twice as likely to miscarry as those who didn't.

aje.oxfordjournals.org/content/158/10/931.long

But yellowdinosaur what about the poo particles...?

Did you actually read the study, bigblue? There are many limitations to that study, not least a very small sample size. Also, you can't state that studies show and quote one small study. Thats not scientific.

Yes I read the study.

Love hot tubs and used them for short periods when pregnant . My ob said it was fine and I trusted him.