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To be scared of death?

78 replies

Nowtherave · 26/01/2015 21:06

Normally I am such a positive person, but lately a member of my extended family has been diagnosed with a terminal illness. I feel very very sad for them and their family of course, but selfishly, I also feel like a six year old again, lying in bed worrying that my parents might die. How do you deal with the idea of death? I have no religion so to me I think I struggle comprehending the idea of nothingness. I want to leave something behind, to not be forgotten, but should it matter if I am not there anyway to see myself being remembered?

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cogitosum · 27/01/2015 18:49

I'm the same and nothing seems to be able to assuage my fear.

The only thing that did resonate I learnt when I studied philosophy which is that time is so arbitrary no one ever worries what happened before they were born so why worry what happens after you die.

cogitosum · 27/01/2015 18:51

Cross post ludoole my comment seems really trite now as it doesn't help those left behind. Really sorry you're going through this. Flowers

BigCatFace · 27/01/2015 19:10

I'm petrified. I was supposed to be having therapy for my fear as it causes panic attacks but had to move and lost my place. Pregnancy sometimes takes my mind off it but in other ways makes it worse. I'm bringing a life into the world which will end and the best case scenario is that I die before that happens. Am terrified of my DH dying too and the Inevitability of that, of being without him, of such a vivid person ceasing to exist, absolutely floors me sometimes.

BigCatFace · 27/01/2015 19:14

Aubade by Larkin sums up my feelings.
I work all day, and get half-drunk at night.

Waking at four to soundless dark, I stare.

In time the curtain-edges will grow light.

Till then I see what’s really always there:

Unresting death, a whole day nearer now,

Making all thought impossible but how

And where and when I shall myself die.

Arid interrogation: yet the dread
Of dying, and being dead,
Flashes afresh to hold and horrify.

The mind blanks at the glare. Not in remorse

—The good not done, the love not given, time

Torn off unused—nor wretchedly because

An only life can take so long to climb
Clear of its wrong beginnings, and may never;

But at the total emptiness for ever,
The sure extinction that we travel to
And shall be lost in always. Not to be here,

Not to be anywhere,
And soon; nothing more terrible, nothing more true.

This is a special way of being afraid
No trick dispels. Religion used to try,
That vast moth-eaten musical brocade
Created to pretend we never die,
And specious stuff that says No rational being
Can fear a thing it will not feel, not seeing
That this is what we fear—no sight, no sound,

No touch or taste or smell, nothing to think with,

Nothing to love or link with,
The anaesthetic from which none come round.

And so it stays just on the edge of vision,

A small unfocused blur, a standing chill

That slows each impulse down to indecision.

Most things may never happen: this one will,

And realisation of it rages out
In furnace-fear when we are caught without

People or drink. Courage is no good:
It means not scaring others. Being brave

Lets no one off the grave.
Death is no different whined at than withstood.

Slowly light strengthens, and the room takes shape.

It stands plain as a wardrobe, what we know,

Have always known, know that we can’t escape,

Yet can’t accept. One side will have to go.
Meanwhile telephones crouch, getting ready to ring

In locked-up offices, and all the uncaring
Intricate rented world begins to rouse.
The sky is white as clay, with no sun.
Work has to be done.
Postmen like doctors go from house to house.

lillibeta · 27/01/2015 19:25

love that poem. it pretty much sums up how I feel, although it's not very comforting!

Cantbelievethisishappening · 27/01/2015 19:26

Ludoole So sorry to hear that Flowers

maggiethemagpie · 27/01/2015 20:58

I'm not scared of dying, I'm afraid of my kids being left behind without a mum. But dying itself doesn't scare me - I'm curious as to whether there's any kind of afterlife, and think there probably is. But if there isn't then I won't know about it, so what is there to be scared of?

SlicedAndDiced · 27/01/2015 21:06

YANBU - I am utterly terrified by death, and the 'nothingness' of it. Sometimes I sit up in my bed and have a mini panic attack at the thought that one day, me and all the people I know and love won't be here any more, and my DH has to 'bring me back down'!

That could have been written by me Willferrellisactuallykindahot.

ByeByeButterfly · 27/01/2015 21:13

I have been terrified from an early age.

Now I try and do exactly as ILove says - mostly works unless I get panic attacks.

ByeByeButterfly · 27/01/2015 21:15

Oh yes exactly like will

ByeByeButterfly · 27/01/2015 21:16

Oh yes exactly like will

ThatBloodyWoman · 27/01/2015 21:16

I am scared of death.
I love life so much and I never want to have to go.

justmyview · 27/01/2015 21:24

OP, a word of caution about the badger book - it is very nicely written, but some people don't like it because the badger goes to sleep when he dies, which isn't helpful if you have a child who is already scared of going to bed

Upatree · 27/01/2015 21:29

YABNU. I've had an intense fear of death for as long as I can remember. I can even recall being 12 years old and thinking: even if I live to be a ripe old age, I'm already 1/7 of the way through my life!

When I was 24, my DP died very suddenly. For a long time after that I would have panic attacks about death - I'd literally break out into a cold sweat on the way home from work every day.

My dad turns 70 this year and virtually every time I see him he talks about not being around for much longer, despite the fact he is in extremely good nick for his age. He mentions it in such a flippant way, that I had to tell him the other day to stop it, because it keeps me awake at night.

I worry about him and my mother dying - I'm an only child so also worry that once they're gone I will have no family. I would love to have children of my own, and for my memory to live on with them once I'm gone, but I'm mid thirties and so far it hasn't worked out that way.

While the thought of not existing any more is chilling, it's the fear of dying horribly / alone that scares me even more.

My mother has never been afraid of death, she's of the opinion that if you had an infinite amount of time to live, you wouldn't achieve as much, because you'd always be able to put things off. Her philosophy is don't obsess over trivial things and live in the moment, because you never know what tomorrow will bring, which is easier said than done. I remember reading Badger's Parting Gifts with her when I was a child and did find it comforting. In fact, I may get hold of a copy and read it again.

ChippingInLatteLover · 27/01/2015 21:32

Ludoole. I'm really, really sorry to hear that x. There really aren't any words to help even ease that pain x

ChippingInLatteLover · 27/01/2015 21:37

Upatree I'm sorry you had your fear compounded in such an awful way x

I think a lot of older people have come to terms with their own mortality and then don't stop to think about how it affect those around them when they constantly say 'this will see me out' or 'I'll not be here much longer' etc.

I asked my Aunt to stop doing it the other day because the thought of her dying really really upsets me. She's late 80's but as fit as a flea. I know it will happen, but I don't want to be faced with it every time I see her, more than I already am in my own head!

I hope you Dad listens to you.

Figster · 27/01/2015 21:39

I feel complete and utter abject terror at the whole idea which is ridiculous as I won't know I'm dead after all you don't know you've been asleep until you wake up. I've actually got a pain in the pit oft stomach just thinking about it Hmm

Believing in the after life must be a wonderful comfort but I can't do it.

ChippingInLatteLover · 27/01/2015 21:39

As for my own death, I'm not bothered at all. Either there will be 'nothing' or one hell of a reunion...I only hope the process of dying isn't too painful.

Leontine · 27/01/2015 21:42

@justmyview Yes, a friend once told their children that a relative had 'gone to sleep' when they had died, thus the children were then very fearful of going to bed.

Upatree · 27/01/2015 21:43

Thanks chipping, I hope my dad listens to me too! I did see him today, the first time since our talk and he now seems to be over compensating by saying things like "I'm going to live to be 90"!

KeepitDown · 27/01/2015 21:48

I find peace in the idea that either there is something after death (some kind of bigger plan/bigger picture), or there is nothing. And if there really is nothing bigger at play, then I wouldn't want to be alive anyway, and would really rather not have been born.

Sounds morbid, but it has actually made me very unafraid of death.

YellowYoYoYam · 27/01/2015 22:07

Over the past few years I have lost my faith. My whole life, I believed in God and an afterlife and now I don't. Facing my own mortality has been the worst part of that. I worried about leaving my family prematurely before my loss of faith but over the last few months it has been a struggle even coping with the idea that one day I will simply no longer exist. My loss of faith became apparent after the birth of my two DCs and I feel so guilty I have brought these two beautiful creatures into the world who will have to face their own mortality too.

I have found trying to focus on the present has helped. I realised that I had previously viewed life as one long crescendo (if that makes any sense Hmm ), yes with bad times, but ultimately going to heaven as the pinnacle of human existence. I am gradually succeeding in changing my mindset and enjoying present experiences and this wonderful world we live in. I hope to leave my family with fond, happy and powerful memories - that is all I can do.

I haven't been able to express any of this in real life. I think it's too depressing to make anyone else listen to. So thanks for this thread so I can put it down here, that feels better.

phoenixrose314 · 27/01/2015 22:18

I realise that this isn't the point of this thread, but I am so relieved to find out I am not the only one with this ridiculous, horrid phobia.

I, too, wake up in the middle of the night struggling for breath and panicking, crying my eyes out, because the reality of death hits me. The thought of not being here anymore, of everyone I love leaving forever... I can't cope with it.

Small things help, occasionally. It helps that I have some sort of faith and a belief that there is an afterlife, though I have no idea what form. 21 grams helps me too.

I hope you find some peace, OP - in the meantime, feel solace knowing you're not alone Flowers

KeepitDown · 27/01/2015 22:28

Oh, if anyone is looking for a little comfort in the form of reading about a possible afterlife (even though I don't actually believe, it's almost a little hobby!), I recommend this book - Afterlife of Billy Fingers.

If I could make an afterlife come true with wishing it to be so, this would be the one.

glampinggaloshes · 27/01/2015 23:54

I am terrified of death. I lost my father when I was young which I think was the trigger and since then a best friend and others. When I think of the enormity of it and the finality I can't breathe and have a full on panic attack. The only way out is to block it out. I have no answer for the terror. I am a single mum so am now terrified of dying before my child grows up and she has no one. All of which are real legitimate fears so I don't know how to rationalise a genuine and mostly inevitable horror