To be sick to death of being told to not confuse terrorists with Muslims on every social media/discussion site

[Elsmom]

Erm yes... I'm not thick, I do know this. It's condescending, patronising and presumptuous. I actually think based on the lives of my Muslim neighbours and friends that there hasn't been this presumed outpouring of islamophobia and Muslims are not suffering due to the attacks in Paris at all? We, most of society can be trusted to make the distinction between terrorists and Muslims. Just sick of being lectured everytime I log onto anything!

YANBU

That someone feels offended from reading something that they agree with is rather

Many many people believe Muslim equals terrorist. There were attacks on Muslim properties after the Paris attacks. There are terrorists who use Islam to promote their agenda just as there are racists who use attacks to promote their agendas. There have been many Muslims who have spoken out about the attacks in Paris andhow wrong they are and saying that for the vast majority of Muslims Islamist not about terror.

Unfortunately some people need reminding that Muslim does it equal terrorist, and if these comments make just one bigot think twice it is worth it.

I'm not sure, but think it may be for Murdoch's benefit. Until he understands. Then it can all stop.

#rupertsfault

YABU.

Looking at the Twitter TL of pretty much anyone who says they support UKIP or any of the other far right parties, people need to be reminded more, not less that Muslim =/= terrorist.

If the education given by news outlets and fora doesn't apply to you, because you know that the vast majority of Muslims, like the vast majority of people of every faith and none, wish to live quiet, blameless lives, just skim and move on. And pity the poor fools who can't make that intellectual leap.

most people DO confuse the two unfortunately

Sadly if you know people who share Brtain first posts and read the comments on them the need for this disaply of support becomes obvious.

Amy news article in my local paper mentioning a Muslim has a million comments about blowing them up and sending them home.

And any story about rape has a million comments about how it must be an Eastern European immigrant.

I think if you don't see the need for this show of support you must live in a sheltered bubble.

When mosques or shops owned by muslims are being attacked in any way, then people in general do need reminding.
There's enough hate to go round already.

YABU. The way to changing attitudes takes time and pressure, so if your friends have friends who are ignorant they will need to be reminded repeatedly that the way they think is not the norm.

I have a work 'FB' account as well as my personal one. On the work one I have a lot of people that I wouldn't be friends with in rl (hence why I separated them). That has been a huge eye opener, once away from my decent thinking friends, the amount of small minded, racist thick bastards there are out there is phenomenal.

I agree with koala and cottage and agree that blaming Muslims for Paris seems to come from provincials/ racists. For example I don't know anyone who would share a Britain first post and would delete them sharpish. It would be quite embarrassing to know someone like that.

It's also, like the #illridewithyou campaign which started very shortly after Oz attacks yet it seems was based on a fictional story. Patronising and slightly racist.

I delete people who share Britain First stuff. However that just deletes them from my friends list not from existence.

Yabu. I have deleted lots of so called friends this week for posting islamophobic shit. These are seemingly intelligent professional people who have been ducked into prejudice and racism. You may not need reminding but others do.

During my commute yesterday a lady wearing a headscarf was verbally abused by another passenger.

Other information being shared in light of the attacks is also very enlightening. I've seen on fb and twitter this week some covets of hebdo which are downright racist and disgusting. One picturing a black french minister as a monkey. All in the name of free speech. Appalling.

That's the problem with freedom of speech isn't it? I adhore your views but defend your right to express them

I sort of agree. I'm an educated liberal type and so are my fb friends. I'm drowning under the onslaught of 'more tolerant than thou' posts on there as they all try to out-liberal each other. This is an ongoing theme
But always spikes after news stories like this.

The posts themselves don't offend me, I generally agree with them. It's the tone of them, the volume of them,the idea that I might have my whole mmindset changed by a video captioned 'This girl nails it with just five words. Two minutes in? Mind blown' etc. I'm on the same side as these guys but Christ if the patronising tone gets on my tits this much then I shouldn't think many Britain First types are going to have any epiphanies.

My DFIL is an intelligent man who reads the Guardian and watches BBC news and he confessed he honestly thought Islamist was the same thing as Muslim and therefore all Muslims want Jihad. This was last summer and I'm still reeling.

Elton - personally i dont agree with speech which is deliberately inflammatory and racist or sexist.

I think hebdo have similar views as they sacked a journo for a cartoon mocking a ministers son. Even their view of free speech is subject to limitations.

cleanmachine - I agree with that. I don't see any need for freedom of speech to = deliberately and massively offensive. It's kind of like sticking your hand in a wasps' nest...

Well I think it's hard to argue that the cartoon which sparked this latest incident was offensive - and somewhat anti Muslim? I can't imagine them replacing Mohammed with Jesus really.

Actually it did happen with the IRA and Catholicism but unless you were a Catholic you probably didn't notice. Happens with paedophile priests and Catholics too - and Jews and Palestine attacks, (ask any Jew - and see threads on here a few months ago). So it is not just Muslims.

YANBU. Assuming that someone is a racist is just as offensive as assuming someone is thick and needs your guidance.

Assuming that critically analysing tenets of a religion equals racism very quickly develops into a presumed suppression by those who do not have the right to enforce that suppression - the rule of law means that only governments have the right to pass and enforce legislation, and it is properly thought out, not based on some woolly thinking on internet forums.

Unfortunately, some people think that pointing out repeatedly in preaching tones that not all Muslims are terrorists in some way sets them apart as being more intelligent, kind and thoughtful than other people who know this, but don't feel the need to constantly preach it.

Agreed, the Troubles did have nothing to do with Catholicism. But, if the IRA had telephoned their warnings preceded by the phrase, the Pope has struck again, I think people would have been confused.

Sorry that is meant to say that it's hard to argue the recent cartoon wasn't offensive

It's not confined to Muslims = terrorists. I've seen loads of comments over the years equating all Americans with being responsible for American foreign policy (or much worse) and Jews being told they have to apologise en masse for Israel.