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To think "put some fucking clothes on!"

445 replies

PutSomeFuckingClothesOn · 10/01/2015 21:08

or at least wrap a towel round yourself FFS.

I go to the gym five days a week, usually in the morning. Every single day without fail there will be people having a shower after their workout. I don't have a problem with this as the showers are in cubicles rather than out in the open.

My problem is is that after they've finished showering you can be sure they will then strut naked out of the shower over to the lockers without bothering to wrap a towel around themselves. They will then stand naked for a bit sorting their clothes and shit out before getting dressed. It's always the same people too.

AIBU to think they should at least wrap a towel round themselves? And get dressed as quickly as possible?

Nobody wants to see them naked!

I did mention it to reception but they just gave me a look like this Hmm.

OP posts:
PrimalLass · 11/01/2015 16:24

I realise I've contradicted myself. I don't particularly like being in changing rooms where other people are naked. I just don't look.

FightOrFlight · 11/01/2015 16:26

Re the 'in public' definition, I didn't write it.

I know you didn't but you used it to clarify what 'in public' means. I just took it a step further to point out it doesn't really make sense as a definition.

Pagwatch · 11/01/2015 16:28

Thank you for the sympathy .

I am trying not to deal with the unwelcome images your 'pop it' enquiry has created Ledkr

PrimalLass · 11/01/2015 16:31

Tell the OED lexicographers then. They love that sort of debate.

SirChenjin · 11/01/2015 16:32

Just for you Pag - sleep well Grin

Pagwatch · 11/01/2015 16:35

Oh dear god

[flashbacks]

FightOrFlight · 11/01/2015 16:38

Tell the OED lexicographers then. They love that sort of debate

Don't tempt me!

I'd also argue that a changing room in a gym would be considered a public place. Parks, supermarkets etc. - yes. Ladies changing room at your local gym - no. A public place is somewhere that everyone can access - can't imagine people popping into the gym changing room to relax, pick up a pint of milk or have their packed lunch.

But that's just me, I'm sure we all have our own definitions (sorry OED).

OnlyLovers · 11/01/2015 16:38

Primal, and people who don't have a problem with being briefly naked in a single-sex changing room would rather not be judged for THAT, too. And the OP is judging them. And some of us on here rather object to that.

SirChenjin, indeed Grin. Seriously, actually, can you imagine the responses? I think they'd be mainly along the lines of hooting derision and disgusted cries of 'Are you kidding?'. Which would of course be sensible responses. I don't like the fact that people who don't like nakedness seem to think it's OK to want to force clothes (or towels) on people who don't mind it, when people who are OK with nakedness wouldn't dream of trying to force anyone else to strip off.

PrimalLass · 11/01/2015 16:42

A PP called people under their towels puritanical and prudish.

PrimalLass · 11/01/2015 16:44

OnlyLovers. Again, there is judging language used on both sides here.

SirChenjin · 11/01/2015 16:51

Lovers - to be fair, there have been a fair few on here calling for people to be more like the Europeans and embrace nudity (not literally, obviously...) regardless of the fact that there are those who genuinely don't feel comfortable being naked in front of strangers.

IvanOsokin · 11/01/2015 16:54

At my gym people seem pretty chilled about dressing/undressing - it is a changing room after all - but don't really see any strutting.

Personally, I'm not bothered by nudity. In a changing room I'm naked when I need to be and clothed when I don't. However, it's a relief to see that the whole hairless-ladygarden thing appears to be a myth, regardless of age.

OnlyLovers · 11/01/2015 17:00

As far as I can see, people have just been citing Europe as being more in line with their feelings about nudity. I don't think anyone is militantly demanding that everyone get naked all the time in changing rooms.

Primal, I've already given my opinion on how the judgmental language is subtly different on the 'no-nudity' side to on the 'OK-with-nudity' side.

But fundamentally, I think my point is that while everyone is entitled to dress under a towel or in a cubicle or whatever they prefer, or avoid looking at naked people, it's not OK to complain to the gym staff because someone has made a choice the OP personally didn't like.

PrimalLass · 11/01/2015 17:04

You did, but I didn't/don't really understand your point Blush

OnlyLovers · 11/01/2015 17:11

The OP was looking at naked women and thought/told us here that they were 'strutting about' naked; she says they 'stand naked for a bit before getting dressed' (the implication being that she thinks they should instead get dressed in a hurry).

In this scenario, people are doing neutral things like walking and sorting out clothes, but the language used makes it sound as though they're flaunting their nakedness.

Calling someone a 'prude' is a judgment, yes, but that's not the same as watching someone doing something neutral and ascribing meaning or intent to it. In my example of someone saying 'someone came out of the showers walking meekly, with a towel clutched round her, looking self-conscious ... timidly fumbled about putting her clothes on under her towel', meaning and intent is being ascribed, just as it is in the OP in the opposite scenario.

CallMeExhausted · 11/01/2015 17:12

I didn't thnk I would wade into this, but for whatever insane reason, I am...

I have horrendous body image issues. I go to the gym regularly, and shower/dry off/change as privately as I possibly can.

To be honest, I envy those with sufficient self confidence to "strut around" more likely walk from shower to locker but I know that I will never be that person. I am covered with surgical scars, after experiencing a devastating accident, and just do my best to hide while cleaning myself up after a gym session. I face the change room, they can see abdominal scars, I turn my back, the spinal surgery scars are there for the world to see.

However... I have lost more than 10 stone, and try to focus on the positive despite the fact that I have enough excess skin for 2 bodies . I am able to go to the gym... and if I had the slightest inclination that I was being judged as some of you are judging others... I would never go back again.

Seriously, it is a body - and surprisingly enough, everyone has one under their clothing.

OnlyLovers · 11/01/2015 17:16

Seriously, it is a body - and surprisingly enough, everyone has one under their clothing

Well, quite. That's the healthy attitude towards nudity, IMO. God knows I'm not a lithe, toned, 20-year-old gym bunny, and hardly any of the women I see in my gym changing rooms aren't either. I love seeing all shapes, sizes and ages represented; it's one way to get a reality check in a world where we're surrounded by the unrealistic and narrow idea of 'beautiful' that our society has decided on.

PrimalLass · 11/01/2015 17:18

I still disagree. Strutting has negative or positive connotations. Prudish does not. It is worse IMO.

PrimalLass · 11/01/2015 17:19

I never agreed with the OP by the way.

SuburbanRhonda · 11/01/2015 17:21

Apologies if anyone has already Grin at this:

lifted legs and all the trimmings

SirChenjin · 11/01/2015 17:25

people have just been citing Europe as being more in line with their feelings about nudity

Which is exactly what those who don't feel comfortable about being naked are - i.e. they are in line with their feelings about nudity. I'm not sure that complaining to the reception staff was warranted, but there's been fairly vocal arguments from both sides on this thread.

ivykaty44 · 11/01/2015 17:25

Op get some very dark glasses that way you will not be able to see clearly the named bodies around you in the changing room....

OnlyLovers · 11/01/2015 17:30

No one has come on this thread and said 'I saw someone in my gym changing rooms, dressing prudishly under a towel and hiding her body away from everyone by skulking in a corner.'

People have said on this thread that they have seen people naked, 'strutting about' or 'preening'.

That's what I mean about neutral actions being ascribed negative connotations. And even if we accept that 'strutting' can have positive connotations, it's fairly obvious to me that on this thread it doesn't.

SoupDragon · 11/01/2015 17:31

I think the OPs Gym is found on Bridge Street.

PrimalLass · 11/01/2015 17:32

Read MehMums post.