To be worried about the Ched Evans threads on here

[corkysgran]

Sorry but this does seem like a witchunt to me. Many of the posters (who have signed the petition) obviously have little knowledge of the case. At one point a poster said Sports Direct would withdraw sponsorship if Evans was NOT signed and immediately others were vowing to boycott. Laughable and shows the level of thought before clicking. Online justice and the court of public opinion, not for me. As for expecting football, an industry corrupt from the very top (Sepp Blatter) and inherently sexist, to show any moral stance, get real.

Manchester police now contacting the club to investigate the threats.

ah finally he has condemned those actions!

That statement should have been released months ago.

It's a shame it took him losing out on another contract to prompt him to distance himself from the abuse of his victim.

very pleased to hear that any rape threats will be investigated

Thank you Only you are right. I have to leave now but would like to yet again stress that I am not defending CE simply saying I feel very uncomfortable with a lot of the views exptessed on those threafs. Thank you to those who have teplied without insulting me amd saying I am defending a rapist when I obviosly am not. Will be back after work to see what other accusations people are making against me.

There is a world of difference between people making death threats against the families of OA board members or those who have threatened Natasha Massey with rape and those who are advocating boycotts and petitions on these boards. Conflating the two is like saying that everyone who peacefully protested against the Iraq war are the same as those who bombed the underground. It is utterly bizarre to think that people who are protesting against rape and advocating victims rights would be the same people issuing rape threats. In my opinion those making threats are probably trolls just using this as a convenient bandwagon, I too wonder whether the threats are being used as a way for OA to back out and try to maintain some (illusory) moral high ground. I hope that if they have taken them seriously enough to back out of this deal (shame basic human decency hadn't) then they should report them to the police. People shouldn't be discouraged from continuing to speak out on these issues because some idiots who are purporting to be protesting against the same thing (though almost certainly for different reasons) have threatened violence, of course that's abhorrent but that doesn't make CE more worthy of a contract.

Corkysgran, that Sports Direct thing you've mentioned in your op was a hypothetical situation as you very well know.

It is shameful that you started a new thread deliberately disseminating misinformation.

The poster really can't be held responsible if other people either don't want to understand, or are not capable of understanding her post.

Shame on you

oh he hasn't actually apolagised then has he, nor has he said that website should taken down

It's incredible that it took his solicitor this long to draft that statement. He must be owed fees he was hoping to recoup from the failed attempt to get a club to sign his convicted rapist client.

he's probably said as much as he can do right now. I imagine that if the latest review fails then the apologies will suddenly be a lot more effusive.

His statement today includes, for the first time, an apology:

“I am grateful for the support of the PFA in helping me try to return to football and continue my career.

Upon legal advice, I was told not to discuss the events in question. This silence has been misinterpreted as arrogance and I would like to state that this could not be further from the truth.

I do remain limited at present by what I can say due to the ongoing referral to the Criminal Cases Review Commission and whilst I continue to maintain my innocence, I wish to make it clear that I wholeheartedly apologise for the effects that night in Rhyl has had on many people, not least the woman concerned.

Finally, it has been claimed that those using social media in an abusive and vindictive way towards this woman are supporters of mine. I wish to make it clear that these people are not my supporters and I condemn their actions entirely and will continue to do so.”

(Sorry Eve, probably the same as you posted, but couldn't read that image on a tablet, so reposted for the similarly tech limited)

I agree that if his latest request to appeal fails he will make a big show of contrition, then all the RCE supporters can say "Look the poor Lad's said sorry and he's still being persecuted, what more do you want?". I hope that people can tell the difference between genuine and convenient remorse.

How can his apology be sincere if he still maintains his innocence?

Jux I did of course know it was a hypothetical situation, my point was that other posters didn't, they simply agreed immediately to boycott SD. Where is the misinformation? Why should I be ashamed of myself?

That isn't an apology for his actions.

It's a non apology apology. He doesn't apologise for the rape. He apologise for 'the effects of that night'

I'm assuming the primary effect of that night over which he is concerned is the lack of a job.

From David Conn's Twitter.

Ched Evans: Police say they called Oldham Athletic & sponsors and were told no threats been made; a couple of "low level abuse on Twitter."

Make of that what you will.

Even if he genuinely feels there was a miscarriage of justice and he is innocent, he should have come out explicitly against the website – and, ideally, had it taken down.

On its own that statement is not enough, IMO.

corkysgran, you should be, at the very least, uncomfortable with yourself because - as I have pointed out twice and you have continued to ignore - you know very well that the issue around the hypothetical situation was a tiny element of one thread which was quickly corrected; yet you continue to focus on it to the exclusion of virtually anything else. You now make vague references to being uncomfortable with the views expressed on the threads without identifying the views in question or identifying them. Try doing so without feeling sorry for yourself and I am sure that people will be happy to debate appropriately with you.

Well at least the police will be looking into the threats against the families of the Oldham employees.

As for his apology - too little, too late. He's said nothing that couldn't have been said months ago. A general 'regrets over that night' limp lettuce affair that won't make any difference to any appeal he ever hopes to get. And the timing... should have waited a few weeks at least, rather than this. It's so blatantly obviously a reaction to not being signed and makes me think the regret is about his career prospects. Who is advising this man? Ched - fire them!

And I'm still boycotting SD. Not because of the misinterpreted comment which I was fortunate to have seen in context at the time, but because they're arrogant sods who think the public view doesn't matter while failing to realise the public are the people who give them their profits.

Personally I'm glad that in 12 years time if my daughters go to university there will have been potentially one less negative role model for the young men she'll be attending with. My hopes are that this is the one of many instances where society finally says 'enough' to sexual violence or violence against women because we somehow deserve it by being female.

he can't apologise for the rape if he is holding out for the conviction to be overturned.

I boycott SD anyhow, and also still refer to St James Park.

And, for as long as he is going through legal avenues, I can see why he doesn't apologise for a rape (don't agree with his stance, but can see the rationale). This apology falls flat because the passage of time makes it look forced. There is nothing he is saying now that he could not have said at the outset.

I wonder if the website will now vanish, and if those seen as his supporters will now desist.

Good post elfycat
Also pag

Icimoi am not feeling sorry for myself. I keep referring to the SD thing because new posters keep bringing it up. If you can't understand my point that people were rushing to boycott SD on a 'misunderstanding/hypothetical situation and that people reading the thread might find that worrying then there's not much more I can say. I'm late for work now will be back later to defend myself.