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Huge argument with friend over extremely trivial matter

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sugarman · 06/01/2015 09:23

Good grief, I cannot quite believe what happened today.

Summer here and last day of a week at the beach with another family (total 2 adults and 4 children).

It has been blissful, beautiful spot, fabulous weather and so much fun.

This morning I was in my room packing when my friend burst in and let rip at my son, 7, saying he was very rude and he needed to go with her right away.

I asked what was wrong and she said he had removed the strap from her daughter's body board. I was confused as actually he had loaned his strap and had asked for it back. Turns out he had asked the mother, she had said yes and he had then removed the strap believing he was doing the right thing, but had mistakenly taken the strap from the sibling's board.

I said, "OK well you give him his strap and he'll give you yours," fully believing it to be a minor misunderstanding, the sort your children have over whose turn or whatever.

She stormed off, I spoke to my son and worked out the misunderstanding, then I went to her to explain why he had taken the strap. I tried so hard to be kind and reasonable, but she hit the roof. She said I was being ridiculous, that he had taken her daughter's strap and repeated that he was "very rude" to have taken it back. She was shouting and really lost the plot. She said her dd's strap was missing and it must have been my son who had taken it because "he was up early" and he "needed to tell the truth about where it was".

I am afraid I saw red at this point. I said her dd had lost her strap, my son had been kind to loan his and she was being very unfair to accuse him of taking anything or lying about it.

I also said that a replacement strap would probably cost about $3 and it was really sad to be arguing about something so trivial.

She then ordered her children into the car, came back into the house and said she hoped I was glad for ruining her holiday and that she was leaving and she would not be helping to clean the house.

So I spent the next 1.5hrs cleaning and left feeling shocked, angry and really just bewildered.

I feel as if I don't really know what happened or why, and that she has been completely irrational.

Can anyone tell me whether I have missed something? She was SO so angry, and so sure she was right that I keep wondering what on earth I did wrong. And how anyone could get into such a fury over such a small thing.

In my view the week had gone really well but now I am guessing that she was already upset about something and the strap was in some way her last straw. But genuinely in the dark here.

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foreverdepressed · 06/01/2015 10:22

Quite frankly she sounds batshit crazy. You nor your DS have done anything wrong, in fact it sounds as though you were both rather polite in the face of her extremely rude and aggressive behavior.

There has to be some back story here?

WhatchaMaCalllit · 06/01/2015 10:23

I think she sounds like she's a sandwich short of a picnic.

I'm just wondering if she has form for leaving her kids with other people while on holidays, are you sure she goes where she says she is going (e.g. home to fix her flooded house) or does she take herself off for a mini-holiday within a holiday and come back all refreshed? Perhaps she was thinking that she could slip away for a day or two during this break for her own mini-solo-break and when you asserted yourself and she couldn't, she got frustrated and took it out on your DS over something so small?

foreverdepressed · 06/01/2015 10:24

sugarmum

"This holiday she did make a few attempts to leave me with her children but I was more assertive. Not to suggest I won't look after other people's children, but that I really dislike being manipulated and will only do straightforward agreements."

Ah, so she was expecting you to be the unpaid babysitter and holiday skivvy again and she was upset that you refused.

On top of that she clearly has anger and anxiety issues.

Sounds more like a "frenemy" than a friend.

sugarman · 06/01/2015 10:30

forever like I said, no backstory I can provide.

I think pictish has nailed it, that my new-found assertiveness may have irritated her because things did not unfold as she may have planned.

The sort of thing I mean is that we were all in the surf when she suddenly thrust her dd at me saying, "there you go with sugarman" and she took off. This is what I mean about being underhand. If she had asked me to watch her dd so she could swim, I would be fine with that but I dislike the way she literally just dumps them on me.

Last holiday I let a lot go, but in this case I led her back to her mother and said, "there's mummy," and continued swimming.

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Poppet1974 · 06/01/2015 10:31

You know a few years ago I would have thought your suggestion was ludicrous whatcha, but I've gotten my eyes open and I wouldn't be at all surprised!

Madagascanparadise · 06/01/2015 10:35

Do you see her a lot back at home? It does sound like a personality clash and something she needs to apologise profusely to you over.

Poppet1974 · 06/01/2015 10:36

It's all becoming clear, you were an easy mark. Sorry but that how it seems, it hasn't worked out the way she planned and that's where the simmering angry has come fromSadAngry

SavoyCabbage · 06/01/2015 10:39

You did the right thing by your ds and that is what I most important. She sounds similar to a former friend of mine who expects others to look after her dc all the time. She actually put in a request to the school for her ds to be put into the same class as another boy as they lived close to the school and she thought it would be convenient for picking her ds up without needing a car seat. She told the school that this other child was a good friend of her ds but he wasn't at all and they hardly knew each other.

Clutterbugsmum · 06/01/2015 10:41

As you say the friendship is over.

What I would say is when she contacts you, and she will because she will not see what she has done wrong. You need to be clear and honest with her that her behaviour is not acceptable on any level and until she can apologise to both you and your DS you will not have anything to do with her and if she does you only have a 'friendship' on you terms not hers.

CleanLinesSharpEdges · 06/01/2015 10:42

She has a nanny and clearly thought you'd be a good substitute on holiday, and got pissed off when you didn't fit into that role.

pictish · 06/01/2015 10:47

I'd be dark over the fact that she behaved so angrily with my son, whatever her motivation.
Not cool.

Nearasdammit · 06/01/2015 10:49

She's completely "whoop ding".

Ditch her.

sugarman · 06/01/2015 10:51

Madaga no I don't see her a great deal, just the occasional joint thing with the kids. No more.

wyamc yes it is exactly like that sharing a house. The towel thing is funny.

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ChasedByBees · 06/01/2015 10:52

Definitely not a friend. I think you're right to consider the friendship over.

Primrose123 · 06/01/2015 10:52

It sounds to me as if your friend thought you would automatically look after her kids when she wanted a bit of a break, and was not happy with the new, slightly more assertive you!

The impression I get is that she takes advantage of other people being kind and helpful. Did she ever look after your kids for you to have a bit of a break? I wonder if she had any intention of doing the cleaning at the end of the week. She got out of that with a well-timed argument and left it all to you, didn't she? I wouldn't go away with her again.

sugarman · 06/01/2015 10:54

CleanLines she doesn't have a nanny any more. Here you can get a nanny funded until youngest starts school so she had them until that point. But yes I think you are right that she was expecting more time to herself. We should have discussed it properly, it's just that I wasn't expecting to be without my kids so it didn't occur to me.

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LoisWilkerson15 · 06/01/2015 10:55

I threw a slight hissy fit near the end if a holiday with my friend Blush It was a combination of my period being due and my friend and her family getting on my nerves a few times by telling us where we were going/eating expecting us to do what they wanted. I felt awful and we are still friends, we laugh about it now. Hth.

emeline · 06/01/2015 10:58

Getting angry with her daughters about them not wanting to snorkel...and barely speaking for the rest of the day?

really?

sugarman · 06/01/2015 11:06

emeline you're right, that was a big red flag.

She had hired equipment for them and was disappointed to have wasted her money.

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crabb · 06/01/2015 11:11

Sorry, wait, back up there a mo: nanny funded by the state? Is this NZ? Wow!

sugarman · 06/01/2015 11:14

Primrose no she didn't look after my kids. We did agree to have turns watching the kids so the other could go walking. On my turn I invited ds too as he is a very good walking companion and then she decided she would come too so actually we all had an amble rather than me having a walk. I didn't mind much though. Walking by the sea, what's not to like?

The other thing was that I assumed we would chat in the evenings but she was fairly heavily glued to her phone as she as a new boyfriend.

But again I didn't really mind as I had some good books to read.qqqq

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sugarman · 06/01/2015 11:20

Yes crabb childcare payments can be used for daycare or homecare which includes nannies.

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OddFodd · 06/01/2015 11:24

So for the last two holidays, she's got out of the clean up? How convenient Hmm

I agree with pps - she's sounding more like a frenemy every minute. I don't know anyone who would leave their children for TWO DAYS without prior agreement, no matter what the issue.

Did you ever see any evidence of this flood? I think she manufactured the row this time to get out of cleaning the house and was probably also pissed off that she didn't get any 'me' time on your back

saintlyjimjams · 06/01/2015 11:28

I fell out with a house mate once because she lost the plot over something completely minor. It turned out I'd been irritating her for about a year Grin and rather than pointing out what I was doing (it was nothing, I would have happily changed my routine to stop irritating her) she completely lost the plot & dumped a year's worth of resentment on my lap.

Anyway she moved out with some mutual friends. About a year later one of the mutual friends appeared next to me looking shell shocked. Miss Blow Up had done exactly the same to her.

So I suspect you're not the first. It's clearly her, not you.

And FGS don't go on holiday with her again.

MonstrousRatbag · 06/01/2015 11:30

At least you can keep your distance. I feel sorry for her children-all the blow ups, selfishness and resentment, but no escape.