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Not to like seeing so many split infinitives in AIBU?

69 replies

SomethingOnce · 31/12/2014 00:28

Most negative AIBUs begin, 'To not'.

If at least one other person is with me on this, I'll sleep a little easier.

(And don't bother directing me to Pedants' Corner.)

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LiberalPedant · 31/12/2014 13:53

I do love a nice Oxford comma.

fascicle · 31/12/2014 14:18

SomethingOnce

Not to like my Christmas presents?

is more euphonic than

To not like my Christmas presents?

Never mind euphonic, option 2 allows greater emphasis of the sentiment being expressed. Similarly, I think the OP's thread title would sound better with 'to not like' (yes, yes, the very thing she's complaining about). I think split infinitives can aid expression and understanding.

clary · 31/12/2014 14:56

Grin at some of you quoting my "linguistically aware head of English" I am surprised I strung something so elegant together at half twelve at night Grin

I know I am wrong and it is a nonsense from Lati (where of course you cannot split an infinitive cos it's errr one word!) but I still don't like it and more to the point I don't do it.

I wouldn't mark it incorrect - but then I teach MFL not English so that's OK then :)

clary · 31/12/2014 14:57

Latin

HeraldAngelSinging · 31/12/2014 15:22

One thing I don't like (and I am correct in my thinking) is the non-use of adverbs. I heard someone on the radio this morning talking about 'walking quicker' instead of 'walking more quickly'.

There was another item about talking so that people understand you. The presenter spoke about talking 'slower' and the guest kept talking about talking 'more slowly'. Plaudits to E Butler-Sloss for using the correct words without criticising the presenter. Well-mannered, obviously.

If you watch American TV programmes, they rarely use adverbs. Perhaps they are not taught what what an adverb is.

PS. We had a Head of English who couldn't spell properly!

Upandatem · 31/12/2014 15:28

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DadDadDad · 31/12/2014 15:47

I prefer "To not like" to "Not to like", so euphony is in the ear of the behearer. Smile

hackmum · 31/12/2014 16:40

There is absolutely nothing wrong with splitting an infinitive.

thecatfromjapan · 31/12/2014 16:45

I think it should be: "AIBU in my dislike of/my response to/my pleasure in ..."

The problem lies in the non-use of the preposition.

thecatfromjapan · 31/12/2014 16:52

"AIBU in finding the presence of so many split infinitives in AIBU a little irritating?"

Tattiebogle · 31/12/2014 16:59

Does it really matter what people split? I couldn't care less about a persons grammar as long as they're interesting and not prone to being nasty in reply to other posters?

SomethingOnce · 31/12/2014 17:43

Does it really matter what people split?

Almost certainly not, but such questions do generate long threads.

There doesn't have to be a final answer though, and I'm glad we care enough about evolving language to have opinions either way.

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Tattiebogle · 31/12/2014 18:21

Caring about evolving language?

Okaaaay.

thecatfromjapan · 31/12/2014 18:52

What on earth was there in that post to merit the elongated "aaaaaa"?

Why shouldn't someone/some people care about evolving language?

You musty be fucking full to hang out with if you find signs of being interested in human behaviour frightening/challenging/distasteful.

Tattiebogle · 31/12/2014 19:10

On the contrary Im more interested in who people are rather than how they write or speak.

snowspot · 31/12/2014 19:20

Am I wrong in this, but:

"I was sat there, waiting for a bus" sounds more disgruntled in a passive way compared to…
"I was sitting there, waiting for a bus".

I have no idea about correctness or pedantry with this topic, but I can see a certain usage for this kind of past tense. (e.g. and I was just stood there, looking like a fool.)
I know it's not about split infinitives (a topic which I thought had been put to bed - i.e. it is a bogus rule) but as it had been brought up earlier, I'd love to know the views on this.

SurfsUp1 · 31/12/2014 23:41

Amethyst24, he sounds nice.
Wink

2015 · 01/01/2015 00:56

I'm not quite sure I follow this thread so I can't promise not to split any infinitives....but I'll do my best. Smile

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