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AIBU?

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AIBU, The battle of the disapproving mother in law

60 replies

Taradeliah · 29/12/2014 15:54

AIBU. I have been with my Fiance for a couple of years . To begin with his mother was lovely to me but when we started getting closer she started becoming more difficult. Last christmas I received a christmas present from her husband but not her. I was quite upset by this but she told my partner that it was just her family tradition and my gift had been allocated to her husband to buy. My partner bought this even though it was painfully obvious that this was not true.
When we announced our engagement she said ' Why are you bothering?' and then took DH for a long chat to try to talk him out of marrying me including factors such as she hates my father ( who she knows socially) and I am too old ( there is a moderate age gap). We have weathered this storm with several straight talking conversations between me and her and she has learnt to hold her tongue. However, she and her husband are millionaires but are refusing to contribute towards our wedding . My fiance was shocked when he asked them as they can easily afford it and he felt they would definately contribute. Now, I have no interest in their money and am happy for us and my parents to pick up the tab as is traditional. The issue I have is that MIL keeps offering my husband money to go on holiday by himself or other miscellanious things.
Their reason for not paying towards the wedding was that they could not afford it , which was a bit embarrassing as they have just spent the last four months traveling the world and own several London Properties. If they had said that were traditional and expected the brides family to pay or they did not think it their place to contribute then I would not have minded in the least . Its just that it feels like a deliberate snub. Before I am accused of being grabby its really not about the money its about still feeling as if I am no approved of.

OP posts:
LittleDonkeyLeftie · 29/12/2014 17:04

As she isn't contributing I wouldn't allow her to invite anyone to your wedding!
It doesn't really have anything to do with her does it? She is just a guest.

ZeViteVitchofCwismas · 29/12/2014 17:08

I wasnt expecting them to pay but I hoping for their blessing and DP believes that their decision is based on their feelings about me

Op may I ask how old you are?

Anyway, how much does your partner understand about his mothers hate to you> because if he doesn't get it yet, your going to have a long hard road ahead of you that will get worse if you have children.

I would hold off all wedding talk and prep until your partner fully grasps how his mother feels about you and what he is going to do about it in future....

also as they are not contributing ( which they have no obligation to do so,,,and he shouldnt have asked them which shows how out of touch and lacking in awareness your parnter is by the way.....) why on earth are they even being told any details of the wedding?

Please dont take this wrong way but you sound - both sound v v naieve.

Why do they know anything about wedding, bar normal invite?
You need to wise up - and wise up fast.

Taradeliah · 29/12/2014 17:09

DP is also a bit oblivious as he has been asking if MIL can make a speech at the wedding. She is only asking to do this as my father is doing a reading and she hates him ! I have said under no terms will this woman be given a special role at our wedding. FFS , what would she say? I could not bear the hypocracy!

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ZeViteVitchofCwismas · 29/12/2014 17:12
  • They don't want him to marry you but it isn't up to them. The way forward is just to have as little to do with them as possible. No point in thinking you should be included. They don't want to include you. So ignore them

Op she aint never gonna come round....and if she does its not going to be by you and your partner arse licking.

Taradeliah · 29/12/2014 17:12

They know because his brother and sisters are lovely and are offering to help in all kinds of ways and DP has insisted on communicating and including them in everything. He thinks if we ignore her we can force her to come around and behave herself. He has also told her off for her behaviour and says she is on board , which is is blantantly not. DP is only 26 and I am 33.

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gotthemoononastick · 29/12/2014 17:13

Run little OP,run far away!

You are on that horrible road of years of misery!

ZeViteVitchofCwismas · 29/12/2014 17:16

DP is also a bit oblivious as he has been asking if MIL can make a speech at the wedding

I dont know how long you have been on MN op, but soooo many of us on here have really suffered at the hands of our MILS, I mean suffer marriage came to near break down, screaming arguments, etc etc, undermined as mothers, tried to break bonds between mother and baby and so on.

You need to wise up and fast.

you need to be absolutely clear on your partners feelings to his parents. whats your set up? live close? how often do you see them etc. how does your mother feel about this? do you have good family support?

ZeViteVitchofCwismas · 29/12/2014 17:17

how can she come round when she simply doesnt want you marrying her son.

can she take a pill to make her like you?

Taradeliah · 29/12/2014 17:22

Oh dear, this all sounds rather frightening.They actually live very close to us and my parents are miles away. DP adores his mummy and loves the fact she lives so close. He is not so good and standing up to her and complained when he did . However, I am no push over and if she doesnt tow the line I will put the bitch in her place very firmly .

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Taradeliah · 29/12/2014 17:23

My mother is a sweet woman and hates confrontation so she just says we should kill her with kindness.

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DaisyFlowerChain · 29/12/2014 17:28

"If she doesn't tow the line I will put the bitch in her place very firmly"

Wow, what a lovely daughter in law you sound Hmm You can't force her to like you but as long as she's civil then it shouldn't matter. Neither can you force her to pay for the wedding. Throwing cash at somebody doesn't prove their love or loyalty.

ILovePud · 29/12/2014 17:30

She's being horrible, what a scummy way to treat a future DIL, hope she does see how awful she's being and makes amends or it will come back and bite her in the bum. You haven't been 'entitled' or 'grabby' at all but for what it's worth I think you're in a better position not having them contributing and I hope you can be firm about refusing to accommodate their cheeky requests. Hope you can enjoy your wedding planning and not let her spoil it for you.

MakkaPakkastolemystone · 29/12/2014 17:31

Oh OP. "putting the bitch in her place", might be the way you feel, but your DP is close to his mummy, how does he feel about you "putting the bitch in her place"? That's going to be your issue.........

Taradeliah · 29/12/2014 17:32

Daisy chain. Well if she ramps it up, which is what the other posters are warning me of , then I will have no choice but to be heavy with her. I won't have her ruining my life. I would be a lovely daughter in law; indeed I have been, but If she is going to be a monster in law then I will react accordingly. Please also read orIginal post. I DID NOT ASK THEM TO PAY FOR THE WEDDING!!!

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ZeViteVitchofCwismas · 29/12/2014 17:34

(but your DP is close to his mummy, how does he feel about you "putting the bitch in her place"?

YY.

it is frightening op, very frightening, I have read so many times....if I had known this was going to go the way it had I would have thought twice about marrying.

you are walking into a nightmare believe me.

makka is right, all very well you standing up to mil but if dh feels mummy is right, shouldnt be spoken to like that and so on. how on earth will your marriage survive?

it will be him and her agaisnt you.

they always get lots and lots worse when dc come along, lots worse....

ZeViteVitchofCwismas · 29/12/2014 17:35

Op, I wouldnt be surpised if this runs to 1000 posts with everyone slamming you for asking for money and being entitled.

its clear your dh asked not you, ignore people who cant read.

to me its shocking though as it shows how utterly out of touch with how his parents feel ...

LuluJakey1 · 29/12/2014 17:37

I could not live with this- if I was you or her. She sounds awful but you sound just as bad. I feel most sorry for your DP. He has years of misery ahead. It seems he has done the classic thing of choosing someone like his mum.

CatsClaus · 29/12/2014 17:38

I think you need to back right off from wedding plans and take a very big step back from this woman and her influence

you and your fiancé need to carry on with your lives and YOU need to work out where his loyalties lie, because atm he is NOT seeing how his mother is with you.

Taradeliah · 29/12/2014 17:43

LULUJACKEY1 , I do agree that we are quite similar which is why I actually quite like her despite her behaviour and it is difficult for DP to be stuck in the middle .

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ZeViteVitchofCwismas · 29/12/2014 17:59

Tara, I agree with Cats and so many other posters, you shouldnt even be thinking about marrying this man yet.

Lulu how on earth does op sound as bad?

What has op done, bar want to marry her son....to upset this woman?

Often, wanting to marry their son is all the crime thats needed for a lifetime of punishment.

your lucky op in that you have not actually married him yet.

you still have lee way and bargaining power.

her demands and behaviour will only get worse and when babies come along thats the peak of feeling pushed out, your doing this differently ie - wrong....

ZeViteVitchofCwismas · 29/12/2014 18:00

Is your man open to new things, would he consider counseling can he admit when he is wrong, is he fair...does he truly adore and love you...

who would he save off a cliff, you or mil?

would he move to the other side of the world if you wanted him too?

FishWithABicycle · 29/12/2014 18:21

What a nasty piece of work your future MIL is. Never mind. So long as her son is strong enough to resist the storm you'll be ok.

On a great many MN threads about nightmare MILs you see the line "you don't have a MIL problem, you have a DH problem" because it's only if your DH won't stand by you that it's a problem.

You are right that her refusing to contribute to your wedding is evidence of her nastiness given the wider circumstances - but see it as a blessing. With no financial contribution she gets zero input on the guest list or any aspect of the day. That fact may be worth way more than any contribution might have been.

DO NOT let her give a speech. Heaven knows what she would say.

Purplepoodle · 29/12/2014 18:24

I'm being a bit dim but I don't get the present thing. Surely the gift would be from both your pil - why would she buy a separate gift? You say your dp brought her excuse - surely he knows his family traditions?

As for the wedding. Perhaps they don't want you to marry their ds. Apart from the age gap and your age, does she have a prejudice because you earn different amounts ect. They won't contribute I guess if they think their ds is making a mistake.

just hold your head high, be polite and carry on with your wedding plans. Once she sees that your not going anywhere I'm sure she will come round (my parents did lol)

Purplepoodle · 29/12/2014 18:27

Rather than let her do a speech (but it would show her true colours) perhaps a reading instead.

ZeViteVitchofCwismas · 29/12/2014 18:50

BTW i don't think the age gap is that bad, he is old enough by now for it not to be an issue for instance if he was 17 and you 7 years older there is more difference but at this stage its negligible.