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To think this dog should have been on a lead

248 replies

Doginthepark · 26/12/2014 17:39

Took DS to the park today and we were kicking his new Frozen ball around. A dog came charging up and grabbed the ball and popped it. DS cried. Aibu to think the dog should have been on a lead?

OP posts:
SistersOfPercy · 28/12/2014 14:24

Chopinbabe. You really are something special

You can guarantee if there is a thread with an off the wall view Chopin is usually the one that holds it.

crumblebumblebee · 28/12/2014 14:31

I am now an adult dog owner but I used to be a phobic dog hating child. I did the crying and screaming thing. Fortunately, parents were not as indulgent as some of the ones of this thread.

And let's turn the tables a little.....why do some of you expect everyone else to modify their behaviour because your child has a phobia?! Humans (not children FFS) might come first above dogs but the other human has a right to walk in the park with their non human. Fair enough if the dog is jumping at you but dogs are entitled to run by you in the park. You would not believe the number of parents who smile indulgently as their children who shriek just walking past my dog, even if though I purposefully pull him away.

chopinbabe · 28/12/2014 14:35

I don't know if that's intended to be insulting, SistersOf Percy (if asked to make I guess, I would say it is) but I don't take it as such.

I prefer to think for myself, although I did pinch the idea of dog collars with numbers from a PP.

On reflection though, I did wonder about how those who are frightened of dogs would get close enough to copy it down, so went a small step further in suggesting that owners wear the number on a high vis jacket.

If saying that people are more important than dogs and children are the most important people, I am afraid that that is one 'off the wall' idea that I am pleased to have.

I understand that, to some, their dogs are more important than children and, although I don't agree with them, hope I'm more polite than to cast aspersions about it.

Try not to be so rude Sisterof Percy and, if you quite can't manage that, at least don't memorialize your rudeness in black and white.

haphazardbystarlight · 28/12/2014 14:38

I don't understand the purpose of the high via jackets: "Oh, a dog!" Well, no shit Sherlock!

ChippingInLovesChristmasLights · 28/12/2014 14:41

SusterOfPercy wasn't being rude. Simply stating a fact. As was I. Your ideas are monumentally stupid.

LePetitMarseillais · 28/12/2014 14:48

Just for the record my son has a genuine phobia,he was bitten and hospitalised by a dog off a lead.

He has since been chased,jumped on and barked at by other dogs inducing rigid fear,terror,near wetting,shaking and a whole host of other symptoms.

We don't over indulge him,he isn't spoilt and he is ten times braver than many on this thread who think belittling phobias in children are funny.He has to deal with his phobia most weeks which he does.He regulates his breathing,shuts his eyes and focuses on something in the distance however if a dog should bound on him or invade his space he will scream.

Hth.

DropYourSword · 28/12/2014 14:52

How does the high viz idea work if I walk my friends dog with mine, do I wear two jackets?

chopinbabe · 28/12/2014 15:01

I would think, Drop Your Sword, that the authorities would be able to ask you who the other dog was, just by using your dog's number.

After all, cars don't have to have lots of licence plates if lots are people are insured to drive that car.

Anyway, it was only an idea. it does seem that those who are concerned about people being upset by dogs are, more often than not, the only ones who are putting ideas forward in the search for a compromise. No problem with those ideas being dissed but at least it is better than putting none forward at all.

VivaLeBeaver · 28/12/2014 15:01

One of my dog has a phobia of dogs.

Believe me off lead out of control dogs are just as annoying for responsible dog owners.

Twice this week I've had strange dogs come running up to mine.

First time a dog came out of nowhere on a playing field where dogs must be on leads. Mine were on leads, strange dog wasnt. It went for my puppy and got a boot up the arse from me. He's lucky I didnt take my other dog off the lead because I think my dog would have killed it.

Then today I'm on private land where I have permission to be. I go into the field with my dogs on lead. A family who don't have permission to be there had two off lead spaniels. They had plenty of time to put their dogs on leads but didnt. Their dogs started running over to mine. They made no attempt to call theirs back. I knew it was going to kick off so took my dogs off their leads as if there's going to be a fight I'm not having mine on a lead. Puppy was terrified and ran out the field towards the road. Luckily when I called her she came back even though hesitantly as she had to come past a spaniel. Twat owners are now giving it "oh they're alright". Yes well one of mine isn't. My bastard dog now decides to protect puppy by getting nasty at which point twat owners finally realise there's a problem and start trying to recall their dogs without much success. Bastard dog is usually all mouth and no trousers and apart from snarling was well behaved.

So please don't tar all dog owners with the same brush because a lot of us are just as annoyed.

crumblebumblebee · 28/12/2014 15:03

My phobia was genuine too, I should have bolded it to make a point, silly me!

SistersOfPercy · 28/12/2014 15:06

I don't know if that's intended to be insulting, SistersOf Percy (if asked to make I guess, I would say it is) but I don't take it as such

Not at all. You just make observations from certain usernames on here, you associate them with certain things and when I see your posts they are almost always go against the grain of the thread.

DropYourSword · 28/12/2014 15:11

No if the two dogs don't play together. It's a bit of a daft idea!

chopinbabe · 28/12/2014 15:15

Goodness, Sisters of Percy...thanks for making a sweeping generalisation, which I don't actually understand. Are you saying, I tailor my posts to a user name? The only time I take note of a user name is when I want to use it in my post, as you did.

Thanks too for pointing out that it is bad form to go against the grain of the thread.

Further thanks for studying my posts on various threads to such an extent that you feel you are expert enough to make these generalisations. I'm flattered...I think!

May I make an observation to you? Please address posts and don't make personal comments: it does seem a little bit dodgy.

Anyway, back to dogs......

ConfusedInBath · 28/12/2014 15:19

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chopinbabe · 28/12/2014 15:20

I guess it could be over complicated, Drop the Sword.

Maybe better for local authorities to provide spaces for dogs: out of hours car parks; fenced areas within a park or rent a local field.

Sometimes, dogs and people don't always mix and better, in my view, for the people to have priority.

MehsMum · 28/12/2014 15:21

LePetit:
who think belittling phobias in children are funny.
Please name and shame. I didn't, and one of the ones being annoyingly pro-dog.

MehsMum · 28/12/2014 15:22

...and I'm one of the ones...
Typo

SistersOfPercy · 28/12/2014 15:24

chopin. When you see lots of posts you think 'yes, you talk sense' you remember the name. Ergo when you see lots of posts you think 'you are on the wind up' again, the name sticks.

It's not at all bad form to go against the grain of a thread, but when someone does it repeatedly, no matter how against the grain and off the wall it is, you tend to remember them.

chopinbabe · 28/12/2014 15:45

Sisters of Percy.

I am not, 'on the wind up'. If it is any business of yours, I post on lots of threads including Books and Style and Beauty, as well as AIBU.

Disagreeing with you, going against the 'grain of a thread' is not done to wind you or anyone else up.

What a bizarre, narcissistic thought but thanks for introducing yourself.

Do feel free to continue taking note of my posts.. alas, I can't guarantee to return the compliment beyond this post.

Do enjoy the rest of the festive period.

SistersOfPercy · 28/12/2014 15:48

You aren't disagreeing with me Chopin, I've not posted an opinion about the OP either way.
Wink

KatieKaye · 28/12/2014 18:02

Of course children are not "the most important". Why would they be? Why is a young human more important than one who is 10, 20 or even 50 years older? Children do not have more rights simply because they are young, nor do we lose rights as we grow older.

If anyone wants to go down the "forcibly tagging/visibly labelling certain members of society because they represent something they do not agree with" then they are likely to come in for considerable stick as most would find this an affront to our rights to go about our lawful business peaceably.

A person quietly walking a dog on a lead is actually causing less disturbance than a child shrieking with laughter. I happen to find both of these perfectly normal occurrences, although the noisy child probably causes more disturbance than the dog.

KatieKaye · 28/12/2014 18:16

Chopin, as most people don't have a problem with dogs, it follows that if the sort of segregation you advocate were to be put in place, then it would be to provide a few places for those with the problem, while the rest of society got along quite happily with the idea they might encounter a dog.
Only that would be ridiculous, wouldn't it? Almost as ridiculous as suggesting dog owners could only go for a walk with their pet in a council car park after 6pm.

Feellikescrooge · 28/12/2014 19:30

Lovely walk today along old railway track to local woods and back. Probably came across 40 plus dogs and 40 plus children, often together. Saw no problems at all unless you count a lot of mud until I got back to the car park where a toddler started screaming as a lab ran past it and stood by it's owners car. The mother was completely feeding her DC's fears, lots of comments about the nasty big dog being naughty for frightening him. Meanwhile the nasty, big dog climbed in the back of the car and was driven off. I also started reading this thread with sympathy for the OP' s DC but some of the 'solutions' are bonkers.

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