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To think that Jamie Oliver lives in a parallel universe?

170 replies

iamthenewgirl · 21/12/2014 09:25

Have watched a few of his programmes over the last few days and I cannot help but think wtf?!

Every dish he makes seems to feed about 100 people. He's cooking a chicken kebab about the size of my leg at the moment. Shiny happy children gorging on massive pieces of chocolate cake. His perfect bloody house and his opinions on how we should all be shopping daily from the food market... Hmm

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hiccupgirl · 21/12/2014 13:01

I freely admit to loving all of them and especially the Christmas specials.

Yes, it's all make believe and no one really cooks like that but as someone else said, I'd rather borrow a bit of their lovely sparkly make believe kitchen world than the doom and gloom in the soaps.

AllOutOfNaiceHam · 21/12/2014 13:04

GotToBe I was stuck in a hospital bed, unable to change channel. Fucking Cap Pav. Is she always like that? Angry

Chocolateteacake · 21/12/2014 13:06

I'd rather watch his world than mine: crashing about in a tiny kitchen, dropping pans, moving the tumble drier to get to the freezer, cursing the dodgy fan in the filthy oven, scrabbling to find a seive at the back if tbe cupboard, cursing that a particular ingredient was actually past its sell by in 1987, playing 'guess that mould' on the mystery object from the back of the fridge...

kormachameleon · 21/12/2014 13:08

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limitedperiodonly · 21/12/2014 13:13

The other thing Jamie Oliver neglects to say is that when you have contacts, you get things for nothing on contra deals.

His whole world is built on that basis.

Oliver is a lot more privileged than me. I have no argument with that, because I'm in a privileged position too.

Currently in my cupboard is a 30g box of saffron which probably has a higher street value than cocaine.

Like I said before, it doesn’t bother me that much that it’s probably a bit stale now. It still has flavour and more importantly, it didn’t cost me anything because it was a present from a restaurateur who is a friend and who would like to secure my continuing custom. Bit like Oliver.

My husband, who is in luxury retail, gives him cashmere jumpers that would sell at £200+. Our bills are subsequently quite low whenever we visit.

Through my job I get lots of freebies – mainly alcohol and popular DVDs and film tickets.

Do you know what? I don’t pay for vegetables at all and pay very little for high quality meat and fish from my local market because the traders like to watch the latest films and have a drink at the same time.

I'm not boasting. I'm just saying that’s the way the world goes round. Except that Jamie doesn’t tell you that it does. He says it's all by the sweat of his brow.

Yes, it is, but not exactly in the way that he tells it.

BTW DH and I don’t have anything useful to trade in the event of a total breakdown of society. We’re just counting on banked goodwill from our contacts.

The lessons I’ve learned from The Walking Dead and seriously scary weapons from the butcher, fishmonger and shoemender would help.

As would the attitude of the two blokes from the vegetable stall. And they also have big knives and hammers for chopping up watermelons and coconuts Grin

BigBoobiedBertha · 21/12/2014 13:16

Don't we all live in our own parallel universes?

He seems alright. Just your average bloke. No better or worse than anybody else. He has had his struggles like with all have and money can't solve them all. OK he has got rich doing what he loves to do but if we are honest and could sit on the green eyed monster for a bit, wouldn't we all love to make loads of money doing what we love? I am sure it wasn't without a lot of hard work and he seems to have a talent for it. I can't get worked up about it either way.

WireCat · 21/12/2014 13:28

I love Nigella. And Nigel Slater. Jamie's food and programmes are nice.
It's a bit of fantasy. I expect their real kitchens are messy and they keep meaning to call the oven cleaning person!

limitedperiodonly · 21/12/2014 13:31

I think it is reasonable to discuss Jamie Oliver's looks since he has discussed them in today's MOS interview.

I'm not going to link to them since links to the Mail give people on here the vapours.

However, I'm going to credit you with the ability to use Google. Which is more than Oliver does when pontificating yet again about people who don't accord to his food or parenting choices.

Although it's interesting that he chose to give that interview to that news outlet in the promotion of his latest venture, given that so many people on MN deplore the Mail.

Shurely Shome Mistake.

And he pushed all the right buttons too. Who knows whether he is genuine in his beliefs or whether he is a secret socialist who just wants to make more money.

Or whether he's simply relentless in the pursuit of money and arrogant and dim with it.

BalloonSlayer · 21/12/2014 13:33

fivefoottwo here's one of the articles

You can get the others by googling.

If he admitted to losing his rag and smacking one of his children once I would probably not have reacted. But the premeditated cruelty and nastiness of deliberately rubbing hot chilli pepper on an apple when a child asks for one is just child abuse as far as I can see.

I remember reading a Patricia Cornwell novel where a child was dead and a high level of salt was found in her body. It turned out the child was being abused and it was mentioned that "abusive parents often add excess salt to their child's food so the child can't eat it." I know it's a novel but I expect she does her research. It made me desperately sad to think of a hungry child being given something to eat that the parent had deliberately made inedible to punish them. I don't see Dear Old National Treasure Jamie Oliver's behaviour as being any different.

meglet · 21/12/2014 13:35

Didn't JO's dad get him his first job, in the kitchen of the pub he owned? So he got masses of experience and a reference, plus possibly some contacts before he ever had to work in the real world Hmm.

I did like his school dinner campaign though. Someone needed to improve them.

Personally I prefer Nigella and her slap dash, lots of carbs and fat approach. Even if her pantry is the size of my kitchen.

Titsalinabumsquash · 21/12/2014 13:35

Can you imagine the outrage if we started slagging off Delia or Nigella for how they look? But obviously it's ok because Jamie's a man..

He must work pretty damn hard, he's worth 150million pound, he's also an insomniac and a self confessed workaholic.
Jools seems pretty happy when she's seen in public and the kids all look healthy and happy.

I really don't see the issue.

TheSpottedZebra · 21/12/2014 13:38

limited your justification is ridiculous! JO said that he's lost weight, he's not said much else about his looks.And even if he had, does that mean it's open season? That's like saying that as Rebecca Adlington has talked about body image, that Frankie Boyle was reasonable to say what he did about her!

Sparklingbrook · 21/12/2014 13:45

I am not a huge fan of millionaires telling us how to cook very cheaply. I never have any of his bizarre storecupboard ingredients.
But mainly I can't get past Jools taking her own food for the girls to eat at birthday parties.

I prefer James Martin.

championnibbler · 21/12/2014 13:48

His wife Jools certainly did live in a parallel universe at one point if she ever thought she could pass herself off as a "model", as she claimed to be in the past. A model for a rosacea advert, maybe. Catwalks and Vogue? Hardly.

limitedperiodonly · 21/12/2014 13:48

I did like his school dinner campaign though. Someone needed to improve them

I agree meglet

But Oliver is being stupid or disingenuous.

Either you accept that there are children who'll need one wholesome meal a day to get by, and that society should subsidise that, or you don't.

Oliver championed that, and that would be a handy business opportunity for him, much like the contributions of the Leon chain.

But other statements he's made have knocked that down. Except he keeps being forgiven for having his heart in the right place.

I have no idea where his heart is but I don't think he's stupid.

Judgemental and with an eye to the main chance though...

PresidentTwonk · 21/12/2014 14:00

I used to watch EVERYTHING JO and try his recipes sometimes too, I really enjoyed the program (a bit Confused when he said wazz a lot or 'introduced Mr Ginger' to his food) and liked the food until I read this
www.essexchronicle.co.uk/Jamie-Oliver-defends-decision-restaurant-job/story-23222869-detail/story.html I've since recorded his programs and tried to watch the Christmas ones but end up switching off after 2 minutes, I just can't bring myself to watch it.....

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 21/12/2014 14:03

Bimbling is a perfect description of Nigel Slater! I love watching him, but wouldn't dream of making one of his recipes. I did try to buy a recipe book by him once, but all the ones I looked in were recipes to serve 1 or 2 people - and I have to feed 5 adults. I could have done the maths every time I wanted to cook one of his dishes, but I really don't need homework when I am trying to cook tea!

Boomtown - I haven't done a lot of Nigella recipes, but her Clementine cake, her pavlova recipe and her Parmesan shortbreads have never let me down.

ElphabaTheGreen · 21/12/2014 14:04

NewEraNewMindset JO is most definitely a chef rather than a cook. He was formally trained at Westminster Kingsway College and worked in professional kitchens - including The River Cafe where he was working as a chef when he was discovered. You can tell he's a chef by his crazy knife skills. I'd love to be able to chop like a chef Envy

limitedperiodonly · 21/12/2014 14:04

Can you imagine the outrage if we started slagging off Delia or Nigella for how they look? But obviously it's ok because Jamie's a man..

It's not as you portray it.

In this Mail interview to promote his latest business venture he talks about his weight loss using dubious techniques and his unique approach to acquiring professional qualifications in nutrition - getting two lecturers to talk to him one-on-one in his office rather than attending lessons, er, in what academic world does that happen?

It is getting quite close to the Gillian McKeith model.

Except that McKeith, a woman, was quite rightly exposed as a fraud and Oliver, a man, is still standing.

Chocolateteacake · 21/12/2014 14:12

I never liked Delia very much...

RoastedNuts · 21/12/2014 14:12

I think it's a London thing, not just Jamie, when you've got great markets at your fingertips. Often I see recipes by these top chefs and you think how the feck am I going to get THAT ingredient at the average Tesco out here in the sticks.

That's why Delia will always be tops for me, nice and down-to-earth.

southeastastra · 21/12/2014 14:13

so he's getting fat whilst moaning about how fat the general populus are? haha fab.

i never really liked him recently though i did like the naked chef.

i am watching delia's christmas on some cable channel. it's rather nice.

19lottie82 · 21/12/2014 14:15

I like him and have a few of his books. He has a really good one "save with Jamie" where you can Cook a variety of roasts then make meals the next few nights with the left overs.

Some of the meals are a bit extravagant / for a lot of people, but they're obviously for special occasions, not everyday.

On the whole I think his cook books / recipes are pretty great!

oswellkettleblack · 21/12/2014 14:19

He always looks like he's wanking when he cooks. All slobbery, too, like he drools in the food.

PoppyAmex · 21/12/2014 14:20

"he talks about his weight loss using dubious techniques"

Erm... he says he exercises and consciously eats healthy food, swapping whites with browns and eating more complex carbs.

How is this dubious?