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AIBU to wonder what fun there is in tormenting people with disabilities?

64 replies

TillHammerZeit · 13/12/2014 17:05

What pleasure can anyone get out of smashing a bus up that is used by people with learning disabilities,while they're enjoying their Christmas party?

What joy can anyone get in throwing litter and rocks at someone with a learning disability,because they dared to venture into their own garden?

Two events that have happened recently with groups I volunteer with. And yes the police have been notified,but I doubt much will be done about it,and it's nothing new.

Possibly the wrong place to post it,but I need to vent,and if anyone can understand why people do these things,please let me know.because it's beyond my understanding,and most people's I imagine.

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Livingtothefull · 14/12/2014 00:36

Dixie your Ds2 sounds lovely. If the sn child is being taunted the school should not tolerate it, they need to take action.

DixieNormas · 14/12/2014 00:46

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Livingtothefull · 14/12/2014 00:51

I'm sorry your ds was upset by this, good for him that he reported it.

Triooooooooooo · 14/12/2014 01:23

Because people are cunts.

Travelling on the bus recently I had 3 old dears sat behind me merrily mocking the 'weirdo' at the back. Apparently they shut all the homes for 'people like that'.

That 'weirdo' was my son, like most teens he doesnt want to be seen dead with his mum and his only scrap of freedom is having his own seat on the bus.

I wanted to turn around and snarl ' I hope as you shuffle further into old age none of end up with dementia or alzheimers and I hope if you do your carers show more compassion when your sat in your own waste with your own words haunting you'. Because, lets face it. Nobody thinks disability will happen to them.

Instead I glared at them individually and went to sit with my boy. Two of them had the grace to look ashamed, one was defending their behaviour to them.

I also think people who are noticeably learning disabled and vocal with it get a lot. More stick than people with physical disabilities, I know ny friend who has a child with cp had her eyes opened recently when she came out wiyh my boy, she was appalled by the amount of sniggering and nudging that went on. Things havent moved on a great deal from when people paid to view oddities I freak shows.

There WILL be people on mn, probably even on this thread who are mean towards people with disabilities or make them and their carers feel uncomfortable simply by making them aware that theyre noticeable. It isn't generational, or down to race, class or area. Cunts walk among us in many forms.

XmasTimeMammariesandWine · 14/12/2014 03:33

I hate getting the bus home from work on a Tuesday. The older kids from my DD's school get off the bus just before me and I have to sit and listen to remarks like "it's such a shame for THEM" " I admire the staff working with THEM" and "at least THDY get to go out these days"

PulyaSochsup · 14/12/2014 04:02

Haven't read the full thread but I find this kind of thing utterly abhorrent. Someone in my own circle was recently jeering at a girl with cerebral palsy who had been cajoled into making daily online broadcasts. At first she was trying to get me to see it as funny, when I was clearly shocked and saddened she began to say that she was simply making a point to raise awareness of the girl being bullied. This woman is an educated professional with a family. We have barely spoken since. Sometimes it can be horrifying to realise how many people's prejudice and hateful attitude is facilitating some types of behaviour such as that in the OP :(.

Thumbnutstwitchingonanopenfire · 14/12/2014 05:20

I think it's a combination of a lack of empathy and a fear of "otherness". It's very primal and basic, and something that evolved humans should have grown past. It's the tribal "that one's different, he/she don't belong in my tribe, therefore I'll chase them off". Like monkeys and many other animals do with ill or disabled offspring. So these people are basically responding to the prompts of their reptilian hind brain and not allowing any higher brain function to override that response.

Certain politicians fit into this category as well.

jeee · 14/12/2014 06:11

Well, winding down the window and yelling 'Crip' at that person in a wheelchair is obviously enormously fun Hmm.

My sister had versions of this regularly. But what really got to her wasn't this type of abuse, horrible though it undoubtedly is. Rather, it was the 'naice' middle class types, who condescended to her. The doctor, who, when she need an occupational health clearance, explained to her that he couldn't stop her working, but in his view, the NHS shouldn't be employing people in wheelchairs. The woman in the charity shop who refused to serve her....

SunnaClausIsComingToTown · 14/12/2014 07:09

It seems to me to be a reversion to the animal within. Herds of animals exclude and reject the weak and the old so that the strongest survive.

I saw this in action in our garden a few days ago. A blackbird had been injured or was just old and the others were pecking at it and not letting it near the food.

It's horrible to see it in animals but humans are supposed to have evolved above that. Sadly some haven't.

x2boys · 14/12/2014 08:16

Nobody thinks that they will have a child with a disability and when they do its devastating it has taken me a year to accept my sons diagnosis he was disgnosed almost exactly a year ago so far I have not experienced much discrimination just a few stares and nudges but he is still only four people that actively seek to harm the vulnerable should be named and shamed and have the full force of the laws thrown at them utter bastards exactly what enjoyment can they get at destroying a minibus used by children with disabilities or any other vile behaviour?

ILovePud · 14/12/2014 10:03

x2boys I think your right in saying that nobody thinks they will have a child with a disability or for that matter acquire a disability themselves. For some people I think it's that need to deny that this could easily be them that leads them to try and dehumanise those people.

Timetoask · 14/12/2014 10:13

This thread is horrifying. My son is only 9 and we haven't had abuse shouted at him, but I really worry about what he will have to deal with when he is older. Is scares me.

He is the most transparent soul, not a bad bone in him, his life is worth a million times more that the horrible scums described in this thread.

TheSporkforeatingkyriarchy · 15/12/2014 09:12

There are many many cases of animals taking in the disabled offspring of other species and caring for them. Recent studies of mothers rejecting their offspring (which previously had been said to be rejecting the weak) have shown there is more a link to the condition of the mother than the condition of the offspring in these cases and boosting the mother's oxytonin and health was linked to it happening less (essentially, animal mothers who care for their offspring can get postnatal depression and psychosis as human mothers do).

Humans really have no excuse, but the messages of society (including that treating disabled people badly is just part of our animal instincts when evidence is showing more and more to the contrary) builds up a tolerance for such horrendous things among those not directly affected. We have to actively fight against and speak out against these messages and speak out for better representation and access to begin overcoming these structures.

jayfreddo · 08/02/2016 23:53

Please help? My ds "best friend " came to stay for the weekend & it was hell!.
His mum is my best friend, & the boys have known each other most of their lives. BUT this boy is Really nasty & rude to my son & when challenged just blames my son for winding him up. He slags off everything my son likes, from his pets to him clothes to the way he uses instagram. He tells him hes crap at football & he has no friends, neither of which are true, this boy is really unpleasant to be around, rude to adults & mean to other kids in the park. He told his own mum to go & die & thus shocks my son. My son is no angel & can swear at times But I just wish he'd drop this kid like toxic waste, yet he still sees him as a best friend. My worry is he's learning to accept abuse as normal & this will affect him later in life?? An advice gratefully received

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