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To say 'no' to extra guests at Christmas?

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IsChippyMintonExDirectory · 08/12/2014 21:53

We are having MIL and my grandad over for Xmas dinner. I'm cooking and have bought all the food. Got a call from BILs ex-GF tonight to tell me they were coming to ours with their 3.5 yo DD - i.e. Our niece - and yes I was told not asked! The exact words were "looks like you'll have to make room for us as well as MIL on Christmas Day as we have nowhere else to go".

Here's a bit of relevant background - BIL (DHs brother) and his ex-GF split up around 3 years ago when DNiece was 6 months old. However they still do most things together as a family and come to family gatherings together. We all love the ex-GF but when her and BIL are together it almost always ends in a blazing row or at the very least snippy uncomfortable arguing. So we dread when they are going to be together somewhere as it's got to a point where they hate each other but still want to have equal time with their daughter so tolerate one another. The rest of us have to suffer the bad atmosphere (which will be worse now as BIL has just found a new girlfriend).

Their 3.5 year old and my 18 month old don't get along - that sounds ridiculous I know as they're toddlers, but they both get on with every other toddler they meet but they seem to rub each other up the wrong way. Neither of them are willing to share (especially my DD) and it takes about a minute for almighty tantrums to start once one has a hold of the others' toys. Also DNiece is starting to push, hit and pinch DD and will also growl in her face and last time we saw her she had a chest infection and caught her purposefully coughing in DDs face (ie forced coughing). Her behaviour is never corrected by her parents. And before I get flamed, I'm aware this is probably normal 3yo behaviour, and my DD may well be doing these things at that age - I don't have an issue with DNiece, I'm just trying to paint a picture of how stressful and unenjoyable it can be when the kids are together as I feel I'm always saying "no, play nice" constantly and both of them go away in tears.

Also re Xmas dinner - we only have space for 4 people round our table, I only have 4 chairs and 4 plates etc in our dinner set. We have bought all the food and don't really want to fork out 50% more - we haven't asked MIL and grandad for money they are just bringing drink, and wouldn't want to start asking people to contribute towards food.

The last few Christmases have been rubbish for me. Last year we were abroad and missed family tremendously, the year before that my dad died 2 days before Xmas and the year before that we were at my mums where there was an almighty fall out. I really want a relaxing and perfect Xmas, and want DH and DD to have the same. DD may be too young to remember it, but she still has to experience it and I want her to enjoy the day by herself and, for one day in the year, have a share-free day when her toys are her own (I know how precious and superficial that's sounds but it's how I feel and how I want to remember her first 'proper' Christmas).

So WIBU to say no to Xmas dinner guests? I didn't say yes btw I said I would call her back as was putting DD to bed (haven't called her back yet!)

OP posts:
Marcelinewhyareyousomean · 09/12/2014 19:18

I've never invited myself for Christmas or holiday dinner at someone else's house.

They have the option of staying home. Either bil OR his ex could host themselves. No need for them to have referees.

If your dd doesn't get along with her cousin, I wouldn't have them over on Christmas Day.

CatCushion · 09/12/2014 19:18

Sometimes I wish the victorians had come up with the custom of conventional, polite 'you're not invited' cards to send out to people who might do this sort of thing.

AdoraBell · 09/12/2014 19:29

YAsoNBU

Let us know once you've put her in her place told her.

I was once told, on Christmas morning, to tell someone else to delay their Christmas lunch by a few hours because of someone running late. This person phoned me. I refused and advised them to bloody well phone the person their actions effected.

LegoAdventCalendar · 09/12/2014 19:34

Your response sounds fine. YANBU.

Jill2015 · 09/12/2014 19:34

Stick to your plans OP. As said upthread, otherwise this becomes the norm, and you will end up with them every year. Have the nice peaceful Christmas you have planned. They can easily look after themselves. YANBU!

Hatespiders · 09/12/2014 19:37

I think we can all guess why this woman 'has nowhere else to go'...
Of course YANBU. But don't give all sorts of reasons why they can't come. Just keep it simple and say "We've decided the answer is no."

Leeds2 · 09/12/2014 19:59

You do not have to invite them. My hackles would be raised upon someone telling me that they would be coming!

I am, however, a wimp and would probably send a text/email rather than phone!

CelesteToTheDance · 10/12/2014 19:22

Say no, they'll ruin your Christmas with their bickering and you'll resent them for it. You don't have enough room and their company is unpleasant, you're not obliged to entertain them.

amicissimma · 10/12/2014 20:21

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timetoplay · 10/12/2014 20:33

Good luck, I'd definitely do the same. She sounds very presumption!

YonicSleighdriver · 10/12/2014 20:37

YANBU!

Did ya do it? Or did DH?

IsChippyMintonExDirectory · 13/12/2014 20:52

Sorry taken ages to get back!

I did it! Said that we were just having a quiet Christmas this year so can't accomodate them. Suggested she just make a roast for the 3 of them at hers.

She did try it on a bit, said her oven wasn't very good and could only manage a pizza not something like a roast ( Hmm no, not a clue how that works) so I said "just have pizzas then, avoids the stress of cooking" Grin passive aggressive as fook I know but I wasn't gonna cave!

OP posts:
SouthLondonMum1 · 13/12/2014 20:58

I'm new here so hope it's OK to respond?

It's a tricky one. Sure you could be assertive and just say a bold 'no' but the repercussions may go way beyond Christmas and you may end up regretting it.

Could you perhaps explain to her that you've had a lousy Xmas day the past few years and that you are feeling stressed this year - and how about if she and her daughter come round in the evening for dessert and coffee instead of for lunch......? Could that work?

Best of luck!

YouTheCat · 13/12/2014 21:29

Well done on saying 'no'.

aquashiv · 13/12/2014 21:42

Ring back and say you think Christmas is a bit full on and there is just never enough time to chat ..Say you have had a better idea why not all go to hers hers for Boxing Day as it would be great to all be together. Perhaps offer to stay over and let her wait on you as you put your feet up.

aquashiv · 13/12/2014 21:46

Just seen update well done Op. She would have done your head in.

Marcelinewhyareyousomean · 13/12/2014 22:24

Good. Why can't he make Christmas dinner or cook the turkey? In any case, not your problem. Well done you.

Hissy · 13/12/2014 22:34

hurrah!

you should have given her that Family Fortunes Computer Mumsnet says NO

Uh-Uhhhhhhhh

HappenstanceMarmite · 14/12/2014 08:36

just have pizzas then, avoids the stress of cooking"

^ Utterly brilliant! Xmas Grin

StillStayingClassySanDiego · 14/12/2014 08:41

Good on you, love your pizza reply Xmas Grin

owlonabike · 14/12/2014 08:55

Oh Chippy, will you come round to my house and sort out my DF and DMIL? Pleeeeeease!!!!

Hulababy · 14/12/2014 09:22

Just say no.

Yes it's Christmas but it is also YOUR Christmas. You and your dd should be allowed to have the Christmas Day that works best for you.

I hate the whole 'but it's is Christmas!' rubbish where people are forced to put up with having to cook for tons of people who they don't even want to see.

People need to stand up for themselves and say no!

Enjoy Christmas the way you want to.

And tbh the fact that she just told you she was coming would have had me prickling full stop. You don't invite yourself round like this. It's rude!

R4roger · 14/12/2014 09:26

hey, can you suggest you all meet up boxing day, or the day after?

CatCushion · 14/12/2014 09:56

The problem with suggesting an alternative time or day to meet is she sounds like the type to keep weedling until she gets what she wants. Or even to just turn up on Christmas day, claiming the oven is broken. It isn't the OP's responsibility to make everyone's Christmas day fantastic, especially the rude ones who take her for granted.

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