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to ask if there are black people in hull?

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izzy5678 · 04/12/2014 16:27

Im black and considering moving my family to hull due to housing shortages in my area.
Just wanted to know if it is common to see black people in hull as I do not want my family to be ostracised.

I was bullied extensively in high school due to the colour of my skin everyday for 5 years. Absolutley ruined me as a person.

I left school 6 years ago and to this day am still suffering the affects of the daily abuse I received all those years ago and would not want that for my children, hence my reason asking this question.

Thanks in advance and please don't take offence anyone x

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mwalimu · 05/12/2014 14:33

spiders no one resents that your husband hasn't experienced racism, that's ridiculous.

What you did though, is tell us that because your husband hasn't experienced it, racism doesn't exist in Norfolk; so denying us our experiences

Do you not see the age old problem with this?

eightytwenty · 05/12/2014 14:36

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eddiemairswife · 05/12/2014 14:36

We don't know if the OP is moving out of choice, or whether she is being being offered a place in Hull because of the Housing Benefit cap. This the situation I sometimes see here in Wolverhampton. People are still the responsibility of their (London) LA, but they are put into private rented accommodation here.

Ridingthestorm · 05/12/2014 14:45

eachandeveryone
You will find yourself in a growing minority for believing that achievement can only come from being in an 'outstanding' school. There are many successful adults and children who did not and do not go to a school judged to be 'outstanding'. You are also generalising that OP will be place on Preston Road. There are many estates and areas of Hull in which OP may be placed. I would also add that Orchard Park, despite it's reputation, actually houses a school judged as 'good' by OFSTED as are many nearby. My friend lives in Hull. Her child goes to a school not in her catchment area so it is possible.

I think OP may end up with a screwed image of Hull by people who either live there currently, or have lived there in the last and have poor experiences of the place. It is much easier for people to be critical than it is to be positive or simply say 'it's alright'. You just need to look on tripadvisor to see evidence of that!
I don't live in Hull but I live close by. I travel to Hull for various reasons and I have family and friends who have lived in Hull all their lives; some in poverty and others living a 'well off' life. None of them would claim Hull to be 'wonderful' or 'perfect' but nowhere is. One man's dream is another man's hell.

TrevaronGirl · 05/12/2014 14:50

I don't live in Hull (opposite end of the country actually) but am curious as to why there?

Hull is a very long way from south London or is it that you have friends or family in the north?

EachandEveryone · 05/12/2014 15:34

I never mentioned outstanding schools to start off with. I meant decent schools. Ofsted isn't worth the paper it's written on. However, exam results can't be fixed. I lived there most half of my life and go back every month still have lots of friends and family there, I love the place but only because of that. There is so much potential there but it never quite happens. For instance the warehouse district near the waterfront. Could be buzzing like the lower Eastside of New York almost they are putting loads of money into it. To get there you need to cross a very busy duel carriage way. It's terryfying so hardly anybody bothers to go there. The marina is beautiful as well. I wish my city all the best, I may criticise it but I'm the first to protect it in an argument. I just don't think it's worth upping sticks and leaving your friends and family behind for.

LoonvanBoon · 05/12/2014 16:12

Oh come on, eightytwenty, experiences from over 20 years ago can't give much useful info. now.

I've only lived fairly close to Hull for the past 10 years & it seems to have changed quite a lot just in that time, certainly in terms of becoming more diverse.

I go there regularly & it just isn't true to say that a black person will be "one of a kind wherever they go" in Hull nowadays. It's not remotely true when out & about in the city centre, it's not true in the schools I know anything about. It may be true in some of the estates, I don't know.

I mentioned "outstanding schools" - not because I think an Ofsted verdict is the be-all-&-end-all of anything, but because someone referred to all the schools as being dire. I think there are lots of good schools in Hull. Exam results don't tell the whole story either. There are schools elsewhere in the East Riding with decent exam results that are very complacent, under-performing & poorly managed. And Hull's exam results have improved massively, anyway.

It is a shame about the busy road to the waterfront area, but it doesn't stop people going there - there are really popular restaurants etc. near the Marina - & it's not even the only way to get to it. And there's a pretty busy road to cross to get to the Docks in Liverpool, for that matter, which hasn't stopped it from thriving.

I do think it would be a massive upheaval for Izzy to move so far away, without any control over which part of the city she lives in, but that's a different matter. I would find it enormously stressful to have to relocate to any city if I had no say in where I was going to live.

EachandEveryone · 05/12/2014 16:29

Would recommend it as a place to go to uni but I can't with my hand on my heart, tell someone to up sticks and move to an estate there. I just can't.

ouryve · 05/12/2014 16:39

I did a stint in Hedon, too, when I was 17/18!

It's grown a bit, since then.

Georgina1975 · 05/12/2014 16:45

I agree that it has changed a lot in the last 10 years LoovanBoon. I think the pace of that change will accelerate too.

Sunny your "evidence" is just...odd re: Hull and slavery. It is not really evidence, and it is not remotely credible is it? "England's major slave ports were primarily on the west coast, with easy access to the Atlantic. Hull looked elsewhere for its maritime trade" (from the "Understanding Slavery Initiative" online). Hull trade was concentrated in the "mundane" northwest European trades Sunny.

I agree with other posters though. It is not the racial diversity that would concern me upmost, but moving away from support networks (friends and family). That is hard even if you move to a place you think is brilliant!

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