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to ask if there are black people in hull?

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izzy5678 · 04/12/2014 16:27

Im black and considering moving my family to hull due to housing shortages in my area.
Just wanted to know if it is common to see black people in hull as I do not want my family to be ostracised.

I was bullied extensively in high school due to the colour of my skin everyday for 5 years. Absolutley ruined me as a person.

I left school 6 years ago and to this day am still suffering the affects of the daily abuse I received all those years ago and would not want that for my children, hence my reason asking this question.

Thanks in advance and please don't take offence anyone x

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prettywhiteguitar · 04/12/2014 22:50

That sounds horrible op, have you managed to keep away from the people who were bullying you ?

In hull my friend used to travel to Leeds to get her hair done btw, there was an Afro Caribbean hair dressers but very small, she wouldn't go there.

I think you would find hull a bit depressing after Croydon, I moved away because of lack of employment and I was a single mum there. It's isolating and boring. I would see if you can find somewhere else, if the south is too dear Liverpool and Manchester, Newcastle have a lot going for them.

But personally I would stay near your family. I know it's hard now but keep your pecker up, you have two very young kids and not much space, and it's winter ! I remember feeling very trapped when my ds was little and I was in my 1 bed.

Hatespiders · 04/12/2014 23:09

Told my jet black dh when he came home from work that quite a few people on MN think Norfolk is very racist. He was outraged. To say he loves it here is an understatement. He can't step outside the door without half the village stopping to chat. He's been handed a stick and dragged into the dance with several Morris sides at the Sheringham Potty Festival, dressed in his African outfit. All the supermarket checkout assistants know him in Tesco's. And in Roys of Wroxham he gets smiles from all the usual customers who recognise him every time. Our church folk love him (even though he's a Muslim) and he's always at their events helping put up the marquee and setting out chairs and tables. He thinks he's died and gone to heaven. All this for years and years. There is no racism in Norfolk!!! OK?

ReallyTired · 04/12/2014 23:19

Why don't you move to Luton? There are plenty of black people and housing is relatively cheap. Hull is cheap for good reason. Ie. No jobs!

ravenAK · 04/12/2014 23:21

Hatespiders - I used to run a pub in Sheringham, having moved there from Yorkshire.

I had one black friend there - she worked behind my bar. As far as I recall she & her ds were quite literally the only black people in the village at that time (late 90s). Everyone was lovely to her to her face, she was a popular lass.

But I heard the way the locals talked about non-white people when she wasn't there. & this isn't just older people - it's people in their early 20s back then who would now be in early middle age.

I'm sorry, but Norfolk not racist?! NOT my experience. To put it mildly.

It's an aspect of living there I really, really, don't miss.

mwalimu · 04/12/2014 23:28

ok hatespiders im glad your husband is having a nice time in Norfolk. But that is not my experience, or many others on this thread by the sounds of it. Dont tell me there is no racism in Norfolk, because i have experienced it

Dawndonnaagain · 04/12/2014 23:29

hatespiders my 18 year old dd has suffered from racism from nursery to sixth form in North Norfolk, South Norfolk and Suffolk. Trust me, it's here.

Minerves · 05/12/2014 00:59

it makes me sad that this question has to be asked in this day and age. when are we going to stop living in a owrld where people fear being ostracised for their skin colour?

TheNewStatesman · 05/12/2014 02:35

Sheffield could be a good place? There are lots of cheap areas, and work wise it would be better than Hull. Schools too. Lots of different ethnicities.

ArsenicSoup · 05/12/2014 02:46

It's not multicutural because it's 92% white.

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Georgina1975 · 05/12/2014 03:22

I have lived in Hull for 20 years.

Unemployment is high compared to national levels, but lower than a that of a lot of Northern cities that lost their industrial base in the 1970s (e.g. Birmingham). The economy is likely to receive a boost as the Siemens development comes online.

The socio-economic geography is interesting. I view the affluent East Riding villages as Hull's suburbs, and think you get quite a distorted picture of the locality by the separation of the two in administrative terms.

Primary education is generally good and secondary is improving. TheCity is also home to a leading University that consistently ranks high in NSS scores.

There are not a lot of black people here. I am friends with 4 black people and none of them have encountered racism. People here will be very interested in you though - you might find this friendly or nosey.

City of Culture in 2017.

MooseBeTimeForSnow · 05/12/2014 04:56

Waves to all great 'Ull folk and those in the East Riding. I lived in Hedon until I was 18.

mwalimu · 05/12/2014 07:54

I think you need to stay where you are lovely. Its not a good trade off. A support network is so much more important than extra living space. I don't know what the answer is, but things wont always be like they are now

mwalimu · 05/12/2014 07:59

Are there people on here that could advise you, that work in housing? I would have thought you were classed as over crowded? Certainly as your kids get older...look at the Shelter website

sashh · 05/12/2014 08:31

Come to Wolverhampton, we do multicultural very well. When I go to buy samosas at one of the sweet shops I'm not the only white person there (some places I would be a bit of a novelty in a sweet centre) and the queue will have people speaking several languages.

If I want a take away I can get the usual Indian and Chinese but also Jamaican, Iranian, Thai... The market is unfortunately shrinking but the food on sale reflects the population and I have had tips on freezing coriander from a Pakistani stall holder and been given the secret of cooking salt fish without soaking by another customer.

Council housing is available, and a few years ago we had a large group of people who traded council flats in London for Houses with Gardens in Wolves.

Employment is not great but the train has you in Birmingham in 15 mins, right in the centre and if you get on the train the other direction Stafford is about 30mins. Trips back to London? Euston is 2.5 hours away and if you are prepared to go on an older, smaller train then you can get tickets from Birmingham to London for £5.

It is not paradise, your children will develop an accent that doesn't get in the top 10 of desirable accents, the schools vary there is one of the best schools in the country - but it is girls only, mist of the other schools are comps and OK but some parents use the grammar schools in Birmingham. Thomas Telford school also takes Wolves students and they leave with armfuls of qualifications.

Altinkum · 05/12/2014 08:34

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magpieginglebells · 05/12/2014 08:36

Moose- so did I! Will wave for you when I'm there in a couple of weeks.

ArsenicSoup · 05/12/2014 08:37

Norfolk isn't an option the OP has been offered.

lightgreenglass · 05/12/2014 08:40

I've never experienced racism in Norfolk/Suffolk, this is being the only Asian in the village type of thing but I am not naive enough to say it isn't there! You don't know what people say behind your back and I know with me they didn't see me as Asian they saw me as white so I was the exception than the rule.

NoLongerJustAShopGirl · 05/12/2014 08:42

Lived in Hull in the 80's and again more recently for a few years in the noughties - it is a wonderful place, people are so friendly - it is definitely the sort of place where you knew your neighbours and folks looked out for each other. I have very pleasant memories of Hull.

They have the same shops/bars/council offices/schools/colleges/hospitals/universities/transport systems as everywhere else - jobs are available.

BerniceBroadside · 05/12/2014 08:58

What's your plan for if/when you move? Personally I wouldn't move without a job to go to as it will be very isolating to be stuck on an estate on benefits, so no money, AND no family support.

Is there any way you could visit any of the areas you are interested in? Or speak to a housing officer in those areas?

And I agree about Norfolk. The racism may not be in your face, but it's there. I'm sure some people there still view people from Suffolk as foreigners.

hesterton · 05/12/2014 09:07

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chrome100 · 05/12/2014 10:28

My dad is from Hull and I still have family there.

I think it's very white but then I live in Bradford which is the other end of the spectrum. There are non-white people, but certainly not that many.

Ridingthestorm · 05/12/2014 10:40

There are black people all over the East Riding. Hull is cheap, schools are great (lots good and outstanding) but to say schools aren't great because they linger at the bottom of the league tables is unfair. Children in hull are very impoverish and have very little opportunities (sink city, at the end of the road, so to speak, infrastructure is utterly crap, negotiate a terrible road system just to get to the docks etc, etc). A lot of children don't achieve because of family circumstances and also their lifestyle. They really don't see a way out of their current situation. It is enough to make kids think "what's the point?" You are more likely to see 'struggling schools' in areas of high deprivation. It isn't because the teachers are crap, but more to do with the fact that these teachers have the hardest job of ANY teacher in the UK who teach in leafy, suburb areas where children are encouraged to achieve.

There are other areas in the East Riding (beverley, market weighton, pocklington, Driffield, Bridlington, Hornsea) that are options. I moved here from elsewhere and love living and working here. Granted, there are not many opportunities when it comes to employment compared to big cities, but people are generally friendly and happy and lots going on in different communities.

Scarborough is another nice place to live as is york, at least with york you are on the main train line, has good bus links, not scary to drive through and realy good schools.

You may encounter racism anywhere though, so don't allow the colour of your skin and your experiences hold you back as to where to live. There are good people in every town and city.

LarrytheCucumber · 05/12/2014 10:46

In Northampton DS has encountered quite a lot of racism, and he's white. People calling him 'white boy' and some groups being openly hostile to white people. They are also openly hostile to other black groups, so just choosing an area because it has a lot of black people isn't necessarily a good idea.

SunnyBaudelaire · 05/12/2014 10:50

of course there are black people in Hull what do you think the city was built on?

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