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To wonder if all this utter bollocks is simply part of the Proper Job market these days

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SolidGoldBrass · 19/11/2014 09:45

I have a new job. I don't like it very much, but the money's good and I desperately need it.
A part of the job involves going on training courses - which is fair enough. I'm working in an unfamiliar area and I have lots to learn: no problem with that.

But the language in the training materials makes me feel ill. It's not a fucking 'personal development journey'; I don't need to be 'reflective and mindful' - I need to learn how to do the job, do it competently and get paid. It's admin work, not psychiatry or woo-peddling.

Maybe I am just too old, but back in the days when I had more regular work (ie 9-5 in offices) I never had this sort of rubbish to deal with. I just did what I was asked to do, and if I didn't know how to do something I asked whoever was nearby and had been there longer than me. I have, admittedly, spent the past 15 years or so working freelance, or pretty much so, and nearly all those jobs have been about going and doing something and then sending an invoice. Is it always going to be like this if I ever want a well-paid job again?

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tywysogesgymraeg · 19/11/2014 09:50

YABU - EVERYTHING is a "journey" these days. Hmm.

Seriously, I agree with you. There is so much bollocks talked in work and just about everywhere else these days. Just go along with it. I've tried the common sense approach, but it doesn't go down well with "the leadership team" (formerly known as managers).

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Andrewofgg · 19/11/2014 09:51

Yes it is. It's a language similar to English, mostly the same words and grammar, but it's not English, it's Bollocks. Get a copy of Teach Yourself Bollocks and get fluent in it; you will need it.

Good luck!

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Andrewofgg · 19/11/2014 09:52

X-posted with the long Welsh name which I will never get right on my phone!

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Catsarebastards · 19/11/2014 09:54

Grin andrew!

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TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 19/11/2014 09:55

Yes.
Think yourself lucky you're not in middle management or you'd have to not only listen to this and passively regurgitate it, you'd have to make it up and force people to talk it while keeping a straight face!

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TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 19/11/2014 09:56

At least you're good at language, though. You won't ever get caught out by getting it wrong.
Also, it could inspire you to write the world's first Management Speak Erotica.

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Gileswithachainsaw · 19/11/2014 09:56

Yanbu.

It's complete and utter bollocks. my job is shit. and the crap they come out with with regards to "improving the customer experience" (a vomit inducing phrase in itself) is unbelievable.

call a spade a spade fgs. don't paint a turd using flowery language.

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CorporateRockWhore · 19/11/2014 09:59

God, I thought you must work for me company but then you said it was well-paid...

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tywysogesgymraeg · 19/11/2014 09:59

Where I am, we have "customer journeys" Sad.

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LaurieFairyCake · 19/11/2014 10:03

Even amongst the therapeutic community there's a backlash against this shite - at a recent peer group meeting we decided to ban the word 'journey' from all our training materials and language as far as possible Grin

I farkin hate that word and I don't think I've ever used it seriously

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TheAlias · 19/11/2014 10:04

When I worked for one of the large banks we used to pass the time in these kind of meetings by playing buzz word bingo.

The best Director I ever worked for knew we were doing it and went out of his way to make sure his language became more and more ridiculous Grin

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Andrewofgg · 19/11/2014 10:05

^The therapeutic community* is GCSE Bollocks.

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LaurieFairyCake · 19/11/2014 10:07

I don't have a Gcse in Bollocks Andrew, is it interesting Hmm?

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windchime · 19/11/2014 10:08

Come and work for the NHS. None of that 'journey' bollocks here. No time for that. You learn it and get on with the job. But on the minus side, the money is shite Smile

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TheAlias · 19/11/2014 10:08

LOL Laurie, your post scored at least 3 points in buzz word bingo.

Ultimately this kind of thing means the whole meaning of words changes. A long time ago, someone in the bank decreed that we weren't allowed to use the word "problem", it had to be challenge. It wasn't long before declaring you were facing a challenge was deemed to be incredibly negative (which was a very bad thing indeed)

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Andrewofgg · 19/11/2014 10:12

Laurie Not interesting. It's stimulating.!

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LurkingHusband · 19/11/2014 10:14

Episode One: Equal Opportunities

[How to deal with a nonsensical complaint]
Bernard: We can CGSM it.
Hacker: CGSM?
Bernard: Civil Service code, Minister. It stands for "Consignment of Geriatric Shoe Manufacturers".
Hacker: What?
Bernard: A load of old cobblers, Minister.
Hacker: I'm not a civil servant. I shall use my own code. I shall write: "Round Objects".
[...later...]
Bernard: You remember that letter you wrote "Round Objects" on?
Hacker: Oh yes.
Bernard: It's come back from Sir Humphrey's office. He's commented on it.
Hacker: What does he say?
Bernard: Who is Round and to what does he object?

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Andrewofgg · 19/11/2014 10:19

LH That one was told about Winston Churchill. Pray who is Round and why does he object?

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Chunderella · 19/11/2014 10:20

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Seriouslyffs · 19/11/2014 10:22

The thing is SGB you can use it to your advantage! If you fuck up you can be 'reflective and mindful' then your manager can use the experience as an example of how she fosters reflective practice and forgive you.
Grin

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ghostyslovesheep · 19/11/2014 10:23

Just play lingo bingo

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FriendlyLadybird · 19/11/2014 10:24

It's not in any organisation on which I have had an influence. It is my mission to rid companies of all such bollocks. But I can only do so much ...

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iseenodust · 19/11/2014 10:26

It is not only bllocks, it is unhelpful bllocks. Such language often makes people feel they don't understand & cannot contribute fully. Someone wrote quite a good book on how professions use jargon to make them 'special/exclusive', as opposed to brilliant to work alongside.

If you work with the public the best mindset is still 'would I like my parents talked to/treated in this way?'.

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Sidge · 19/11/2014 10:30

Oh I dunno windchime - I have seen a creeping bollockisation of the NHS.

They started with all that 'reflective practice' and then 'overarching policy', 'patient journeys' and 'clinical governance'.

Loada shite. Used to be called 'nursing' when I started out...

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PingPongBat · 19/11/2014 10:32

Uh oh - don't get me started.

I work for an IT company who use a system which has 'scrums', 'sprints' and 'agile' technology development. Ugh. And since when was a 'user' a 'stakeholder' fgs?

An FB friend posted the following which someone said to her at work:
"I’ve reached out to him yesterday to elaborate on what the ‘ask’ is of us, and once we know will take it forwards".

Truly vomit-worthy.

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