Programme - it was alright in the 70's FUCKING HELL!

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Anyone else watching this and feeling utterly shocked that it was only 40ish years ago?

We did object, protest and make a stand. That's why this all looks so sexist, out-of-date, and pervy now. Rather than being the status quo and unremarkable..
But I also agree that in many ways, we have not moved on much further, and in some areas we have slipped back into the stereotypes and surface values that many in the 70s spent so long challenging.
The Cardassian arse is one such, the pressure to conform to a certain body image another IMO.

"We did object, protest and make a stand" well I didn't, neither did my mother. Going through puberty in 1973 was not pleasant.

I felt fair game for any man who would prod, grope and comment, from uncles to neighbours to the butcher. My mother's only advice was to wear baggy tops so as not to let men see that I was growing breasts. I was told it was something we had to bear.

Whereas I had a mother who had taken a degree in the 50s when she was one of three women in her year, and who taught me that I was entitled to respect. So I do remember the pressures and the groping attempts and the rest of the shit that was around and accepted as normal by the majority.
I think it's one of the reasons that feminists were seen as unable to take a joke, should be grateful for the attention and why you needed backup from others if you were going to rock the boat.
Bloody hard to even know it was possible if all your adults thought it was acceptable to treat girls like a plaything or a pet without rights or bodily autonomy.

Was there any Python? I love Python, but there are only two types of woman in it: old harridan or Carol Cleavage Cleveland.

I think it was easier for women from middle class backgrounds in the 1950s.
University for my mother was just not an option. Coming from a grindingly working class background she was very typical of the "surrendered wife" of her time.

My mother (who also took a degree in the 50s) says she thinks that by the 70s "the sexism remained but restraint had gone", and as a result, sexual harassment was worse that decade than before or after.

Groping was illegal then just as it is now, as some are realising to their cost.

I agree bigbluestars, in our village there was wife-beating and marital rape. Wasn't seen as anything odd. A slap to keep her in order, and a wife never said no to her husband.

My friend was seriously sexually abused in 1972 when she was 10. The family did discuss what to do, there were huge family ructions, but in the end the family decided to sweep everything under the carpet and not tell the authorities because they knew the shame that would befall the family.
The assaulted girl was warned never to talk of the incident.

Downby. I saw some awful things in the 60s and 70s. Women living near me were regularly beaten, injuries and broken limbs were commonplace. The police were not interested- men ( often with drink problems) had a right to beat their wives. If women went to their GP he would prescribe heavy tranquillisers, or she would be sectioned and have electroconvulsive therapy performed to cure her "depression"

Very few women worked ( except part time cleaning jobs) never mind university.

A man was considered to be a good husband if he didn't beat his wife.

Not defending anything that went on the 70s but not sure how anyone can think things are better now. Jordan anyone? Rhianna, Miley - and these are very much mainstream figures. Pornography in the 70s was a stash of dirty mags - incomparable to what is available at the click of a button these days. I've just been watching the first series of Grange Hill with my kids - compare the way school kids dressed back then and the kind of porn star chic that many young girls aspire to today. Is the 70s shocking because we remember it as being a much more innocent time (probably because many of us were much more innocent ourselves and it went over our heads)? I wonder how much more shocking the present day will appear when today's youngsters look back after 30 years.

My high school happened to be at the end of the lane where I lived. So kids streamed past there twice a day.

I went there in the 70s. In the 1990s, my stepmother said to me "Oh these girls from the high school get worse and worse. You should see them going past at 4 o'clock with their shirts tied under their busts like bikinis..."

She was genuinely horrified. I said nothing but quietly remembered us doing the same in the 70s. She must have just not noticed (or recalled). Plus ca change, in some ways.

I do remember doing what my dad used to call "putting on the war-paint" and going out to this cafe-bar which was full of bikers when we were about 15. And all the leering blokes and comments, right in front of us, about "jail bait". I didn't even know what jail-bait was.

I think a lot of girls my age were very sexualised in terms of our clothes and make-up. But there was also an innocence about (most of) us.

Where I worked in the NHS in the early 1990s, I suffered sexual harassment (and then just plain harassment and bullying) from a bloke there. It wasn't dealt with well at all - I wasn't the only one, there were 2 other "victims" of the same man, and we did everything we could to have this sorted out.

But the thing that truly sticks in my mind is the female consultant who told us that she had spent all her medical training in hospitals having to put up with sexual harassment and misogyny and we were just silly little girls who should just get over it and grow up. She must have been in her 40s or possibly early 50s at the time, so she was probably talking about the late 1960s/early 1970s when all this harassment she suffered took place - but she just had to accept it or she'd have never "got on" in medicine.

Obviously we ignored her "sage wisdom" and carried on trying to get the situation dealt with, which it eventually was.

what is wrong with everyone, get off your superior high horse tv music online is more shocking now than ever, in an episode of the simpsons bart walks in on his dad and the police chief smoking a bong their is far too many other things to mention. life was a lot better in the 70s and it was before my time

You do realise this is a 2 year old thread don't you?