To think the scene at the end of Doctor Who where *spoilers*

[Ir1na]

the Doctor started smashing the TARDIS controls up was bit too much? That part was good and very well acted, but even I was slightly ! [shivers]

Yet nobody batted an eye

Clara acted like an overexcited scool girl thats why an adult boyfriend girlfriend relationship looked daft I wasn't connected to them either

I just hope when The Master comes back, it's still Michelle Gomez. She is magnificent! And yes, on Extra, Moffat did sound as if The Master will always return and pretty please, let it be Gomez.

She was bananas

That Tardis smashing scene was pretty shocking - the Doctor doesn't really lose his temper and PC does emotional scenes rather too well.
It shows more about what the Doctor had been through from losing Amy and Rory, then River (again)then Gallifrey (again) then regenerating when he thought he was going to actually die more than anything else so far. I reckon it was supposed to show that it was Missy/the Master who almost broke him completely.

The Master/Mistress is not dead. The Master Never Fucking Dies. He was executed by the Daleks once, and returned.

It will turn out she was teleported.

The smashing scene wasn't disturbing to me, although the overall plot, to me, was a Bit Too Far. I thought it was horribly gruesome and upsetting.

Also, I can't believe the Doctor would really be stupid enough to leave the Master/Mistress practically alone with one inexperienced researcher. That was not believable to me. He's known the Master and his ability to manipulate for hundreds of years.

QueenTilly I didn't find it too upsetting apart from that TBH, it was sad but in a good way if you know what I mean. But then again I watched Sinister (gory and EXTREMELY creepy horror film) and was fine until the couple in it had a screaming argument!!

Sorry a bit late, I only watched this yesterday.

What the hell were the guards doing when Missy took off the handcuffs and started with the lipstick?

And why were they on a plane?

The plane thing was an emergency protocol: in the event of an attack, get the most important people evacuated to a secure location. It's what they do with the President of the U.S.

Frank

Yes but the Dr has a Tardis, the president doesn't. President also doesn't have flying cybermen intefering with the plane.

Oh and don't get me started on explosive decompression

The Doctor wouldn't have allowed all those people on the Tardis. Therefore they took him prisoner and put him on the plane.

Exactly allow the doctor access to the tardis he would have grabbed Clara and run, Kate said it your unreliablity must be taken as a given, it's the most reliable thing about the doctor.

Also the tardis is a very valuable asset in its self, keeping it with the doctor would have been to much of a target.

I assumed Clara was going to tell him about the boy & ask for help to get him home. How is she supposed to get an unidentified young boy to the middle east with no passport & no way of explaining how she came across him... That's before she even starts explaining to his parents how the son they thought had died ended up in England...

AGnu she was the implication was that she'd called the doctor to tell him Danny hadn't come back and ask for help to get the boy home, but the doctor spotted the burnt out cyber controller on her wrist and presumed she was going to tell him Danny was back and she wasn't going to travel with him any more.

I bet we never hear what happens to the boy.

He's come back the age he was when he died, which was a while ago (Danny had time to leave the forces and become a teacher with at least a little bit of experience).

Bad choice.

Did anyone else notice the bit where it said the Dr had been married 4 times and the whereabouts of his children and grandchildren were unknown?

Okay how many marriages do we know? 1 on Gallifrey, 1 to River Song, 1 to Queen Elizabeth I - anyone know the fourth?

Didn't one of the earlier Doctors have his granddaughter as a companion? Presumably she might be the product of another Earth marriage?

Actually, some children from war zones do emigrate without their family if they've been separated, so it's not too far-fetched that he could have gone missing and later turned up in the UK, as long as they didn't actually see him get killed. Sorry if that's too serious for the thread!

Didn't the Matt Smith Doctor, accidentally marry Marilyn Monroe?

Sigh. It is so sad that I know this website exists, but, according to
tardis.wikia.com/wiki/The_Doctor

After Gallifrey was destroyed in the Second War in Heaven, the Eighth Doctor (Paul McGann) married Scarlette in order to ceremonially tie himself to the planet Earth. (PROSE: The Adventuress of Henrietta Street)

The Tenth Doctor (David Tennant) romanced and later married Elizabeth I. (TV: The End of Time, The Day of the Doctor) She later declared him an enemy after he failed to return as promised. (TV: The Shakespeare Code) The Tenth Doctor implied he had been married several times prior to Queen Elizabeth, as he remarked to Sally Sparrow about being "rubbish at weddings, especially [his] own". (TV: Blink)

In his eleventh incarnation (Matt Smith), the Doctor accidentally became engaged to Marilyn Monroe, and married her the same night in what he later claimed was not a real chapel. (TV: A Christmas Carol)

River Song often hinted that she and the Doctor had a physical relationship somewhere in her past and his future relative to the Eleventh Doctor's encounter with the Silence in Florida. (TV: Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead, The Time of Angels/Flesh and Stone, The Pandorica Opens/The Big Bang, Day of the Moon) A Teselecta version of the Eleventh Doctor with him hiding inside married her in an alternate timeline shortly before his "death". Later in their individual timelines, they spoke as if they considered themselves husband and wife. (WC: Asylum of the Daleks Prequel, TV: The Wedding of River Song, The Angels Take Manhattan, The Name of the Doctor, The Time of the Doctor)

According to Clara Oswald, by the time of the Doctor's twelfth incarnation, the Doctor had been "married four times, all deceased." (TV: Death in Heaven)

So, there's four - Scarlette, Elizabeth I, Marilyn Monroe (maybe) and River Song. Plus, he started with his granddaughter Susan, so presumably there was a TimeLady wife before he stole the Tardis. Five? Or is Scarlette discounted because it was only in a book and not the TV series (there are all sorts of arguments about what is Doctor canon and what is not).

He must have had a TimeLady wife as he talks about being a father on Gallifrey.

Well bugger me, I must've been half asleep to miss that!! Still don't think she's dead, though. Moffat will have some diabolical plot device to bring her/him back when required.

It was a bit of an over engineered ending in my opinion.

I've just watched all the 'new' dr who series back to back and it's made me realise that this current series is just not that good.

The relationship dynamics are not only uncomfortable (which would be fine), but dysfunctional and dwellers upon far more than is interesting.

I actually don't care about either Clara or the doctor, and what is supposed to be all angsty and meaningful is merely irritating and petty.

Such a shame :(

(I'll still be watching at Christmas though!)