to be shocked at the casual drug use

[onemiddlefinger]

It's about this tragic story
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2803948/What-tragic-waste-two-lives-Lying-bed-littered-drugs-young-British-newlyweds-class-degrees-dead-hotel-near-Taj-Mahal-backpacking-tour-India.html Graphic photo warning added by HQ

The casual drug use that they documented on twitter. Is this common? If it's on twitter for the whole world to see it implies that it's nothing to be shamed off, in fact the opposite. What about their families and friends, they must have known?
I find it quite shocking and of course it's a tragic loss of life, just fail to understand why/how do you get to this point.
Also in my naïve mind I thought that drug use is something people try to hide from their colleagues, friends and family.

purp love your fuck em attitude

Nah perp. Not the same thing at all. And no I don't shop at bargain clothes stores or buy supermarket meat or fish.

From that write-up, the only illegal drug involved was cannabis, taken as tincture. Sounds like the guy had long-term depression and was looking for anything to fix it, as the diazepam was not enough. The woman, who knows? - no report of forensics post mortem. So a sensational article in the DM, and I dispute the MN headline which infers a crazy binge. Sad accident, not typical - kids here stick to dope and E's on the whole, plus the newer legal highs starting to arrive. It's mixing it that's deadly.

As John Peel once memorably quoted, the War On Drugs is at five-nil and the ref's looking at his watch. Let some party here have the courage to follow the US examples (Colorado etc) and legalise at least cannabis, so quality and distribution can be controlled. Taxation too, Colorado made $40m in the first month IIRC.

Perpetualstudent I'm sure most people are anti sweat shops and slave labour, but on this thread we are talking about drug use. Are we only allowed to be angry about one thing at a time? Great attitude though, "oh don't worry, there's slave labour in the world so I might as well give up worrying about the drug industry."

There are plenty of people obtaining their drugs via other peoples scripts. Not all drugs are sourced from developing nations. Some are made in nice clean factories.

There is nothing I have not seen re drugs, professionally and from experience. And the most intractable substance abuse issues nearly always emanated from alcohol.

BTW Habituated is perfectly understandable from a psychological, cultural, social or physiological substance usage perspective. Bit that you should struggle with it so yet consider yourself an authority on subs use.

AllHallow

Rather naive and culturally blinkered to assume we are all white and middle class...hmmm

So 2 young people have died and people see fit to tear them to shreds. Comments on that link are beyond the pale.
Who knows why they were taking what the took? The tweets very much sound as though they're written by a disturbed young man who's sadly accepted this as his life.

The poor families and friends of the couple having to not only cope with the tragic death of their loved ones, but also deal with people commenting and speculating over a picture of their loved ones laying dead. Having been in the same situation not long back I can fucking assure you it was like being punched hard in the gut over and over. I'm truly horrified that our media are now seeing fit to publish these sorts of photographs.

I haven't clicked on the photo because (1) I have the DM blocked and (2) I have seen plenty of dead bodies in my working life. I don't need to click on images of them.

I don't suppose anyone will ever know the real story but those Tweets make it pretty obvious he was in self destruct mode.

There's a report saying their relatives think the poverty they saw in India might have tipped them over the edge- unless they know that's true- that's pretty low to try and say it was what they saw there that caused this.

He'd been Tweeting about his drug habits for months- seriously how can friends and family read that kind of stuff and not realise something is very very wrong.

I really don't understand how a teacher can post that kind of stuff on social media and not be reported before it comes to this.

His tweets were a cry for help. Not that he'd have listened, if he was intent on self-destructing.

It isn't common to tweet/talk about dependency on prescription drugs. It's quite taboo. But very easy to get hooked on the likes of codeine, Valium, diazepam, etc. I got quite hooked on codeine after I was given it for miscarriages. Luckily I came off in time but it's easily done, especially if you're in a dark place to start with.

Very sad.

Who knew you could get high off Lyrica it just made me fat!

Such a sad waste of two lives but they clearly knew what they wanted and were seeking so seems to be they had been doing it for a while

I always joke with DH my medicine cabinet is a junkies paradise - I have pretty much every pharmaceutical that a junkie would want in there in large quantities as well as signed repeat scripts.

Before anyone gets any ideas there's a lock on the cabinet!

I should also say how anyone can function with an opiate hangover is beyond me. If I have to take 60mg codeine and a diazepam that's me done for at least the following day, no way would I be safe to drive let alone work

It's the DM at it's very worst exploiting a tragedy and intrusive as that front page is the behaviour of their writers/photographers towards family and friends will be even worse.

To speculate is crass even more so when there are no tox reports yet, there are a few of us whose drug use might look huge if our bag of medicine was tipped out. Poor families

it's hardly 'speculation' is it?
The guy tweeted regularly about taking different drug combinations to get high.

Really yellowspoon

What exactly do you think the tox reports will say?

The guy had been tweeting for months about his drug abuse and both he and his wife were found dead surrounded by pills.

Two people do not die in a hotel room together from natural causes- that's not really speculation

There are all manner of things that may or may not have caused their deaths. No less tragic regardless though.

However, they are somebody's child, sibling, friend etc. It is quite frankly nobodies business how or why they died. Honestly, after reading masses of people speculating about the circumstances of my sibling's death it infuriated me how people were talking about him as though he were public property, just because some scummy newspapers had printed the pictures.

Yup really the DM is exploiting these people at their families expense.

And presuming the drug use isn't coincidental to their deaths the tox report could make it very clear it was suicide rather than accident for example. It's not a public interest news story it's an awful family tragedy.

The DM handles it with its usual ghoulish insensitivity, there family will be having a hard enough time trying to sort this all out.

Sorry you had you go through that LosingAllTheLego:( it is piss poor behaviour.

one thing i have noticed in the last 10yrs is the amount of 40yrs + men and women taking coke in the local pubs

its utter crap but it dosent stop them taking it on a friday night,it has deffo got worse in that there seems many many more older users