to be shocked at the casual drug use

[onemiddlefinger]

It's about this tragic story
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2803948/What-tragic-waste-two-lives-Lying-bed-littered-drugs-young-British-newlyweds-class-degrees-dead-hotel-near-Taj-Mahal-backpacking-tour-India.html Graphic photo warning added by HQ

The casual drug use that they documented on twitter. Is this common? If it's on twitter for the whole world to see it implies that it's nothing to be shamed off, in fact the opposite. What about their families and friends, they must have known?
I find it quite shocking and of course it's a tragic loss of life, just fail to understand why/how do you get to this point.
Also in my naïve mind I thought that drug use is something people try to hide from their colleagues, friends and family.

Neo, what industry do you work in?

"Readers may find it distressing, but the Mail is publishing it, with the bodies pixellated, in the hope it will serve as a warning against the horrific dangers of casual drug use"

Oh so that's why you published the pics. You're so moral, DM.

So sorry that this couple's families had to see this story covered in this salacious way. Grim.

Neo of course it's normalised behind the scenes because no one wants to admit they employ casual drug takers but yet on the other hand people are seen as cool if they take it, especially younger people.

Take Cara Delevigne's use and Kate Moss' use of coke - both of this was played down and in any case solved to make them more marketable and edgy. Yet when someone like Peaches Geldof dies of a heroin overdose people feel sorry for her but it's almost like "well her mother had drug issues so maybe it was in the genes".

Also Neo being white and middle class sometimes doesn't get you off the hook, I was in a car crash some years ago on the way back from a club where there would have been fatalities if our taxi hadn't been a people carrier. Two or three of the men with us washed their hands of any involvement, but of course, they had drugs on them and they knew if they were found out, police got involved they could be in trouble. One guy owned his own business, others all white and middle class. I think it was around then and after my friend died that I (also white and middle class but I prefer to use the term working class as I work and middle class sounds pretentious generally).

Like I said I haven't touched drugs for about 10 years now apart from the odd line of coke at a party (once in a blue moon!).

Blimey, I wouldn't call that casual drug use, it looks like they were on a mission to me. What a shame.

Sad story but totally baffling to me.

These are two really intelligent, educated people. The cocktail of drugs that guy was taking was insane.

lilann I would report the gp. Did you mean to use the word 'habituated'? It doesn't make sense in this context.

superhigh there is no 'safe' way to take drugs - don't fool yourself.

The impact on the vast majority of people on having one glass of wine is not going to be nearly as drastic as a line of cocaine. So I stand by my point - you cannot compare the two.

Those who are doing illegal drugs outside of work with colleagues do actually joke about the comedown. I've had to sit and listen to it when management hasn't been around. A dear friend died because of a drugs overdose so I am all too familiar with the darker side.

I also don't understand how you cannot separate out alcoholism from substance abuse that is exactly what it is. And millions of people in this country abuse it on a regular basis. Just because it is legal doesn't make it right. But that is a different debate.

And yes, appalled at the images in the DM. Sensationalist stuff just to sell more advertising space or whatever with no thought for the family.

How lovely to be white a middle class smoking a little pot!

You should try living and working on a sink estate where your shed will get robbed for an ounce or the local wizz heads have no teeth because they have disintegrated or the smack head who has injected that much smack in to her neck it's damaged her ligaments and can only face the extreme right. Houses getting robbed at Christmas to fund the local crack heads. Who the fuck wants to snort washing powder up there nose and chat bullshit while gagging for the next line putting them selfs at risk of an immediate heart attack.

Can't fucking stand it when posters come on here completely detached from the issues we have with our young people with drugs.

To the poster that knows social workers that take drugs. You should report her as these are exactly the people we do t want looking after our vulnerable people.

I doubt pixelated images of drug users sells advertising space!

Like I said I haven't touched drugs for about 10 years now apart from the odd line of coke at a party (once in a blue moon!).

don't mention it.

Those who use recreational drugs on this thread. Do you know where your drugs come from and the trail of destruction it leaves? As far as I'm aware by purchasing a bottle of wine I'm not supporting gang violence, arms trade, human trafficking and so on.

A very nice middle class hobby I must say......

Allhallows - to be blunt with you, when you do it like we did once a week out clubbing, we knew the dealers etc then that was our version of safe. No doubt we were kidding ourselves but we wouldn't have continued if we felt unwell or anything like that.

I recall one time I had to take antibiotics and was warned off illegal drugs by friends.

And like Neo you'd be surprised by how many young/middle aged professionals with/without kids did it then and still do it now. You're kidding yourself if you think many people don't take drugs who are professional etc.

mytitifers surprisingly enough when you use drugs you don't think much about where they come from and the moral side of the drugs trade as it didn't affect us or we turned a blind eye to it. And this was with education on the drugs trade behind us.

If I named names now, some high fliers, recognisable names, some people would be [shocked] at this but when you have money to throw about and you're in pursuit of fun then drug use trounces the moral side of where drugs come from who they hurt etc.

NotYou when I saw the photo (rather I hadn't) I thought that looks set up.

Doesn't explain the Twitter

I think drug buyers/users should be treated the same way as those who supply it. They create the demand and the need to use the methods deemed necessary to fly and float that shit here.

These were LEGAL drugs though...so not really different to killing yourself with vodka.

As for illegal recreational drugs - yes I know many many people in responsible jobs (teachers/NHS etc) who indulge at the weekend. It's naive to think you could spot and report a Doctor on a comedown imo.

Very sad story but whatever was going on with this couple it has nothing to do with most peoples casual drug use. Sounds like they were on a mission to self-distruct.

It's very sad and very disturbing.

mytitiferssungtheirsong

Absolutely. I don't know how you can feel good about yourself knowing you're propping up a bloody, violent industry that exploits men, women and children and causes unimaginable damage.

Of course that doesn't buy advertising space. It does however push up views and site traffic. Do I have to explain the obvious further?

I can't bear drug use. have cut contact with friends who continue to take things for fun. Recreational drug use I always found a rather strange term as well - it's not really something that normally comes under the recreational banner is it.

I'm not surprised high that people with important roles/jobs take drugs as there are irresponsible dick heads everywhere- it still doesn't make it ok that some one famous takes them.

Cocaine use is absolutely commonplace among the young clubbers in our grim northern town. DD has already dumped one, otherwise perfectly nice lad, for turning into a complete arse every Saturday night. She is struggling to find someone who doesn't dabble.

I am shocked at the cocktail of prescription drugs they were reportedly using and I certainly don't think it's the norm.

Of course there is a black market in prescription drugs in this country but they certainly aren't as easy to get hold of in the uk because prescription guidelines are quite robust.

I think sometimes if something is licensed or available over the counter it seems less dangerous. However when the drugs involved are powerful ones such as those cited in this article that certainly isn't the case.

As for talking about drug exploits on social media, that can surely only lead to problems! I don't take drugs, but in my line of work I would almost certainly lose my job and career if I was found to be talking about drug taking exploits online!

casual? they were hard core drug addicts . who managed to get major OTCs in India and well we know the rest

unkind for their families though to show that photo IMO

"don't know how you can feel good about yourself knowing you're propping up a bloody, violent industry that exploits men, women and children and causes unimaginable damage."

Um, so Im assuming none of the nay-sayers on this thread have ever bought clothes from Primark, sewn in factories operating under hideous conditions? What about air-freighted supermarket fish, possibly caught by slaves on Thai fishing boats? Or any non-fairly traded coffee etc for that matter?

The origins of the recreational drug trade are violent and oppressive, but honestly I can't see much difference in most of the legal supply chains we operate under.