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To think that trick or treating is basically begging?

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AndyWarholsOrange · 18/10/2014 13:11

I actually don't think that at all but am surprised that no one has started the obligatory thread about it yet so thought I may as well start one. Also, Haloween is American and allowing children to have anything to so with it will lead to them worshipping Satan. Have I missed anything?

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ginslinger · 18/10/2014 19:10

In germany we feed turnips/swede to the animals -HTH

frames · 18/10/2014 19:21

dc 'celebrates' Halloween with ex h and his dp, she doesn't need a costume, and it saves me the bother of trick or treat angst. Happy days.

HappyAgainOneDay · 18/10/2014 19:25

ginslinger

Have you ever each a piece of swede or a little turnip? They are delicious. What a waste to give them to animals. In Romanian rural areas, they grow pumpkins to feed to their pigs (well, the farm I stayed at did).

I don't cook swede any more because it's too hard to peel.......

Thefishewife · 18/10/2014 19:31

I have a massive sign no trick or treaters I hate it

EEVEElution · 18/10/2014 19:33

Spider dog! m.youtube.com/watch?v=YoB8t0B4jx4

EEVEElution · 18/10/2014 19:35

Can I totally derail and ask where you got the spider dog outfit from? I really want one for mine now to scare the local kiddies :D

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ghostyslovesheep · 18/10/2014 19:39

bit early though OP we haven't had complaints about Diwali yet Grin

hotfuzzra · 18/10/2014 19:43

Begging?! Much worse! It could be construed as a form of blackmail!
"Give me some some sweets or I'll egg your house..."
[A person is guilty of blackmail if, with a view to gain for himself or another or with intent to cause loss to another, he makes any unwarranted demand with menaces.
'Menaces' is to be liberally construed and not as limited to threats of violence but as including threats of any action detrimental to or unpleasant to the person addressed. It may also include a warning that in certain events such action is intended.]
Luckily most adult blackmailers get their cute becostumed children under the age of criminal consent to make the demand with menaces for them.
Lock 'em all up I say...

AliceDoesntLiveHereAnymore · 18/10/2014 19:47

It's not Halloween until we've had one of these threads. Grin

Have to say I'm American and I've never let my dcs go trick or treating, although we did it as children, and I've always had sweets to pass out on Halloween to trick or treaters. (hypocrite, me Grin)

But as far as I'm concerned, I spend 364 days a year telling my dcs not to take candy from strangers, I'm not breaking the rule on one night. Just seems ridiculous. I'll buy some sweets that they can have - so there's some portion control, and we only have the type of sweets that we like. Grin

Nocturne123 · 18/10/2014 20:00

We've just moved house recently and are actually looking forward to having some trick or treaters for the first time.

We got pumpkins today Grin though Dcs are a bit too young to understand Halloween

jammytoast · 18/10/2014 20:01

Wheres the best place to buy dry ice?

Didactylos · 18/10/2014 20:05

we go guising, not trick or treating Grin

Didactylos · 18/10/2014 20:06

and any teens with minimal costume efforts who knock the door demanding money get given tangerines. and monkey nuts

Comito · 18/10/2014 20:06

I don't mind them coming round. In my area it's usually tiny kids accompanied by parents rather than aggressive teens, though last year we did get an egg chucked at the window apropos of nothing.

A couple of years ago I'd got a load of sweets in for them but we had a lot of trick or treaters that year and ran out. The last lot got given apples as that was all we had. It was hilarious - the kids' faces fell but the parents were fervently thankful for actual fruit rather than more refined sugar.

Hakluyt · 18/10/2014 20:08

"I spend 364 days a year telling my dcs not to take candy from strangers,"

Gosh- your conversation must be a bit......limited!

AliceDoesntLiveHereAnymore · 18/10/2014 20:16

An odd part to nitpick at. Or was ya just bein' funny? Hmm Grin

Andcake · 18/10/2014 20:21

Halloween is British but trick or treating is a nasty American thing and I tend to tell trick or treaters such. Ds us too young yet - but as a kid I had a friend whose grandmother did wonderful Halloween parties for her granddaughter who lived with her. I was thinking as ds is summer born and friends might not be around for birthday parties due to summer holidays I could do a Halloween party when he's school age.

AliceDoesntLiveHereAnymore · 18/10/2014 20:30

trick or treating is a nasty American thing and I tend to tell trick or treaters such

sigh... and here we go... oh, and you TELL the children that? Aren't you a pleasant one then? "Here's your sweets - you know, of course, this is a nasty American thing, right?" Hmm

AliceDoesntLiveHereAnymore · 18/10/2014 20:39

Pffffft... blame your own bloody country, thank you very much. Hmm

Grant you, it's wiki, but there's loads of stuff out there to verify it, really. Not to mention the 50 gazillion threads that show up every year where people have to repeat it ad nauseum because people keep moaning that it's all the American's fault..

The practice of dressing up in costumes and begging door to door for treats on holidays dates back to the Middle Ages and includes Christmas wassailing. Trick-or-treating resembles the late medieval practice of souling, when poor folk would go door to door on Hallowmas (November 1), receiving food in return for prayers for the dead on All Souls Day (November 2). It originated in Ireland and Britain,[4] although similar practices for the souls of the dead were found as far south as Italy.[6] Shakespeare mentions the practice in his comedy The Two Gentlemen of Verona (1593), when Speed accuses his master of "puling [whimpering or whining] like a beggar at Hallowmas."[7] The custom of wearing costumes and masks at Halloween goes back to Celtic traditions of attempting to copy the evil spirits or placate them, in Scotland for instance where the dead were impersonated by young men with masked, veiled or blackened faces, dressed in white.[Guising at Halloween in Scotland is recorded in 1895, where masqueraders in disguise carrying lanterns made out of scooped out turnips, visit homes to be rewarded with cakes, fruit and money.[5] The practice of Guising at Halloween in North America is first recorded in 1911, where a newspaper in Kingston, Ontario reported children going "guising" around the neighborhood.

Hope you take the time this year to tell all the little "guisers" that you were wrong.... Grin

ginslinger · 18/10/2014 20:41

Yes Happy I have - with enough butter and black pepper it's vaguely acceptable but i don't like the flavour much.

maryz

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AliceDoesntLiveHereAnymore · 18/10/2014 20:57

Hmm.. never heard of the paraquat in haribo one. Obviously sheltered. Grin

MrsDeVere · 18/10/2014 20:59

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AliceDoesntLiveHereAnymore · 18/10/2014 21:03

hahahahahahaa NOW you've done it!! Grin

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