To think that recipes like this should be banned

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...or at least come with a big fat warning triangle. It's Miranda Gore Brown's recipe for Hazelnut Tiramisu Cake, in this month's Essentials. It's basically a nutrition-wheel red-out, with chocolate, double cream, mascarpone, butter, sugar, sugar, booze, sugar, chocolate...you get the picture. Calorie content: 1074 cals a serving.

I'm not a food prude. I'm not a health nut. I like a slice of cake as much as the next woman. But really? Is it physically possible for anyone except endurance athletes, Arctic explorers and lanky teenagers to eat this without it affecting their health? This kind of recipe is more like drugs than food, TBH, and I think it's probably deeply irresponsible to be promoting it when so many people are worried about obesity. Yes, you can choose not to eat it, or have a smaller slice. But I'm not sure it should be glorified as delicious even though it probably is

AIB completely U to feel a bit disturbed?

This one is my favourite - and 38 fewer calories per portion, too

www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/1161646/chocolate-and-caramel-layer-cake

I AM a health nut and gym freak and I can't see anything wrong with having a slice of this on the odd occasion. its meant as a rare treat, not an everyday essential.

YABU it's about time people took responsibility for their own actions and stop blaming other people. Yes 1000 is excessive but surely it is meant as an occasional treat.

^ what however said

This kind of recipe is more like drugs than food

I think this has the be one of the most stupid things I have seen posted on MN. You're comparing cake to drugs?

The only thing I find disturbing is your complete ignorance.

looks delicious - think it will be on our menu this weekend. But as I walk four dogs and ride horses it won't make me fat. It's all about calories in and calories out - it is madness to think this kind of thing should be banned. Banning recipes like this won't make the obesity problem go away.

Well, Chipped, I think there is a lot of evidence to suggest that sugar is as drug like and addictive as alcohol (but we haven't banned that either!)

However, most of the calories in this recipe don't come from sugar but from perfectly healthy things like dairy and eggs. Calories are important - we can't live without them. I've run 50 miles this week, that's c. 5000 calories burned, in addition to my BMR. I can have a piece if I want, in fact all that protein, carbs and a little bit of caffeine (chocolate) would be very good for me.

Obviously there's a problem if people are eating more calories than they burn, but for people who need lots of calories, or can eat it in moderation, this is way better than the highly processed "treats" most people have.

I don't think it sounds too bad, in fact sounds bloody delicious. I exercise about 2 hrs a week, am very active and enjoy my food all in moderation. I probably eat something yummy like this once a week with a coffee, maybe every other week. I also like chips, and pancakes for breakfast. I'm aware of the food I eat but not massively concerned about it all. I haven't put on more than .5 kilograms in the past year. (That's not a boast just saying it is possible to eat things that are 'naughty', hate that expression by the way, and remain healthy).

The main reason so many people are overweight is a combination of sedentary lifestyles and over reliance on cheap high fat high sugar takeaways, snacks and ready meals. This cake is not cheap, or at least the ingredients are not cheap, and it's not quick fix food either. No one is going to be cooking and eating this everyday.

It's not as if anyone would be eating this daily, or even particularly often. I bake for family parties etc and something like this would go down a storm, I imagine we'd probably cut it into more than 8 slices, but as a one in a blue moon treat, I really don't see the harm

YABU - its ok on rare treat occasions to eat something like this - its when people try and eat stuff like this every day that it becomes a problem....

We have cakes at home on birthdays etc, but we wouldn't have something like this all the time

at least come with a big fat warning triangle

seriously - if you need a at "big fat warning triangle" to tell you its not a 'healthy option' then you shouldn't be allowed to be near a hot cooker anyway

OP I think you are very brave to warn us of the dangers of cake. Are yu Bruno Brooke?
Warning - this video contains Role Harris. AND Noel Tidybeard.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZgg7o91EWU

Don't be silly, of course it's possible to eat it once in a while without having an instant heart attack and your health will depend what you eat the rest of the time. But you can't seriously need other people to tell you that?

Nobody eats cake for health reasons.

MizLiz, is right, in fact the average calories people consume from food today is almost 25% less than it was in the 1940s (during rationing). 2269v1750 That's how little exercise most people get today. Also soft drinks (which aren't included in the numbers and would have hardly been used at all in 1940s have a lot to answer for.

Personally I don't think double cream, mascarpone or butter are unhealthy because I am an advocate of natural fats.

I agree with you. It's the diet foods, the hidden sugar, the artificial sweeteners that are wrong.

Cake isn't an everyday food item, it's a treat. Nothing wrong with eating something like that every now and then.

Private Do you have a link to those figures? Because from what I've read it's the opposite!

Right. So because some people don't eat responsibly people who do eat responsibly should be denied a real treat on their birthday or Christmas.

And then we should ban alcohol because of course, there are alcoholics

And cricket, we need to ban cricket, because cricket bats and balls kill people.

Just about anything can be lethal if used irresponsibly. The vast majority of adults don't need recipes or anything else censored by some po faced killjoy on Mumsnet who is too patronising to see that almost everybody over the age of 18 is capable of reaching exactly the same conclusion regarding this recipe and deciding whether or not the want to cook or eat it.

Honestly, the fact people think they have the right to patronise other adults in this manner makes my blood boil. I find it offensive. The assumption that everybody else in the world is far too stupid to be trusted. Perhaps could have a special group for whom cake eating was permitted? Maybe reserved for people who are graduates in sociology or political science who can answer a multiple choice quiz to establish they have the correct right on credentials approved by Mumsnet before anybody is allowed to eat a piece of cake.

Are you planning to eat it every day?

Why worry then.

Not RTFT but Tiramisu is rank and should definitely be banned.

A Mcdonald's meal is over 1000 calories per serving as well. And I bet your average Christmas dinner is well over 2000.

Apart from anything else the cake sounds too rich to eat very much of in one go. Instinct can regulate what we eat far better than counting calories.

sod the little tiny omg im watching my wheight portion im a skinny and i would eat a huge great big portion of that it sounds lush

It sounds lovely.
Obviously it is a treat. Can't see the problem.
Except that I want a slice. Now.