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Thereistoomuchconfusion · 16/10/2014 20:43

For an action plan and to be involved in exactly how they are going to get my dd from 'below' to 'in line' on her report.

I believe her potential is so much more but she is below in every subject. I feel they are missing something. They feel she is a dreamer who won't always co operate but is a pleasure to have in the class Hmm well behaved and popular were the 2 positives to come out of her parents evening.

Her work is hugely I'm consistent. She panics about school work. I am becoming massively anxious about this. But it could just be her ability is at below standards?? But I struggle to believe this and I want to know what they are doing and what we can do as parents to help. But every time I speak to the school I bloody well cry!! The teachers must think I'm barmy. She is 6.

Aibu to ask for clear action plan with the main objective being for dd to achieve 'in line' by end of year 2.

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Thereistoomuchconfusion · 16/10/2014 20:46

Inconsistent. Sorry for errors, on iphone

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LEMmingaround · 16/10/2014 20:48

Could she be dyslexic?

Asleeponasunbeam · 16/10/2014 20:50

Well that's what the school want for every child, isn't it? You can certainly ask how they're planning to support her, but your post implies that you think they're at fault somehow.

If she doesn't always 'co-operate' can you see how it would be very difficult for a school to guarantee they would raise her attainment to 'in line' level?

Muskey · 16/10/2014 20:53

Perhaps you should get her tested for ADHD as sometimes in girls it manifests itself as them being classed as day dreamers. Whatever the outcome stand up for your dc because if you don't no one else will. Good luck and just remember when you speak to the teacher you are doing the best for your child.

BrianButterfield · 16/10/2014 20:53

Believe me, if they think she's capable of more they will try to get her to achieve it. There's no such thing as letting a kid coast unnoticed any more.

feckitall · 16/10/2014 20:54

Has she had eyesight and hearing checked recently?

I was a 'day dreamer'. I did ok as a child but underachieved.
I have auditory processing disorder only diagnosed in middle age
I can't distinguish sounds even now I 'zone' out as the sounds bombard me leaving me feel overwhelmed.

Purplepoodle · 16/10/2014 20:55

She is 6 ffs, get a grip

CatKisser · 16/10/2014 20:56

I wouldn't ask for an Action plan, no.
But it's more than reasonable to ask what's being done to accelerate her progress. Interventions? TA support?
Ask what you can do - tables are an absolute must, as is reading together and sharing an enjoyment of books.
If the school are half decent they'll have flagged her up as needing support.
This isn't meant unkindly, but you sound clearly anxious. Don't let this worry affect your DD. Let her know she's doing well, take interest in her work, help her to love learning for learning's sake.

Thereistoomuchconfusion · 16/10/2014 20:56

I think she is. The school clearly don't from the way they respond to me about my concerns, I have raised the question several times. They won't test until she is 7-8. I am dyslexic, my sister is and my dad is the family history is there. I spoke to SENCO looking for advice to get her privately tested and her response was pretty much, it's not curable and they are doing everything they can so there would be no point.

But she is bright (I know I know every mum says that) but she really is. The school is missing the best of her and I want them to get to her potential but I'm stumped at what to do next. The teacher made her stay in at break time because she hadn't finished her 8 sentence target set and the teacher said I know she can do it but she won't always apply herself. What I understand from dyslexia is this is possibly the worst thing to set a timer on someone who already has huge anxieties over writing. Feeling so frustrated about the whole thing. I want to feel level headed and go into the school with clear objectives and (not cry) being firm and friendly. But I don't really know what to say!

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Purplepoodle · 16/10/2014 20:57

The teachers will have procedures in place but again she is only 6

Sleepswithbutterflies · 16/10/2014 21:00

Is fine saying she's "only 6" and not to worry but the earlier the intervention the better chance of success.
Children behind at 6 are often behind at 7, 8, 9 etc without additional input. The gap gets wider.

I would ask what they are doing to help bridge the gap.

Pigriver · 16/10/2014 21:05

If you are concerned about dyslexia you can get her tested by contacting dyslexia action. Her teacher is correct in saying a diagnosis won't make much difference if they are already supporting her appropriately.
You could start by looking at age related expectations for the end of y2 and see how far behind she is. These are all freely available online.
How is her phonics? There are loads of apps to help plus daily reading will help. Ask basic comprehension Q and ask her to write some words/ sentence about the pic.
There is loads of info about how to help children with dyslexic tendencies without a diagnosis. You probably already know a lot of it if you have it too.
Tbh your post does sound like you are blaming the school by asking 'what are they going to do about it' maybe think about how you could support and encourage your daughter especially if she is unmotivated and doesn't apply herself at school.

Thereistoomuchconfusion · 16/10/2014 21:05

She is only 6, and I want her to be a kid more than anything. And I want to not to care about this, but it does make me hugely anxious. Maybe I'm the problem here.

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Thereistoomuchconfusion · 16/10/2014 21:10

I'm not blaming the school at all, I have been to them numerous times to ask how I can help and they have given me loads of materials which have been fab for her spellings etc and been hugely supportive but the fact is she is still below. And I really want to know how to get her in line where she should be. like I say maybe I'm the problem here not dd or the school. How can I help to get her to apply herself and stop day dreaming.

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forumdonkey · 16/10/2014 21:12

I think thats where your problem is OP you are 'hugely anxious'. She's 6yrs old and you are pushing already saying she can achieve more than she is. Your attitude may be more detrimental to her if she senses that what she's doing is good enough for her. If you want to help her doing some FUN reading and writing at home.

WhereTheWildlingsAre · 16/10/2014 21:12

I don't think you are the problem at all. I do understand your anxiety though.

My DD had a poor year 1 but it all started clicking in years 2 and 3. Now she is fine. I had her tested for dyslexia in year 2 but it showed nothing. However, it did rule it out and put my mind at rest on that score.

I think, looking back, what helped was continual dialogue with the teachers. Kids really do develop at their own pace and the teachers can help work out the best way to support this.

mummytime · 16/10/2014 21:12

I would actually not bother with an assessment by dyslexia action, but use the money to get her some specialist tuition. Techniques used with dyslexic children will not harm those without that problem.

Pigriver - children of 6 are not lazy and unmotivated - if they appear to be so then there is either an undiagnosed educational problem (dyslexia, hearing, eyesight, etc. etc.) or there is a social/emotional issue.

YackityYakYak · 16/10/2014 21:13

Thereis - this sounds just like my DS1.

I'm sorry to say that when he finished Infant School he was a master at flying under the radar and not finishing work - not naughty, just sitting there watching others. Like your DD he was loved by the teachers, and was always polite and friendly. They just about had to sit on him to get him to complete work for the SATS. They admitted that they couldn't sit with him to make sure he did the work because he was capable of it, they needed to sit with the children who were less capable.

We've gone private to a school with a class size of 10 so that he can't sit there unnoticed. The improvement since the beginning of September is immense.

LEMmingaround · 16/10/2014 21:15

I struggled to get a diagnosis for dd. Finally got an official diagnosis at the end of year 4. She had a school based diagnosis in year 3. She is severely dyslexic and struggles with the basics and probably only reading at year1 or 2 level.

We have had to get her a specialist tutor which is cripplingly expensive (£35 a week) for an hours tuition(i had to take an evening cleaning job). She has only had five sessions and already she is more confident.

The school paid for the ed psych assessment as we are on a low income. I really wish we'd got it done sooner.

My dd is a "dreamer" because its hard work for her to concentrate and she often couldn't engage as she couldn't follow the written instructions. Like your dd, my dd is incredibly bright and astounds me with her understanding of various concepts but her dyslexia means she often can't access learning. Her ed psych assessment put her intelligence at above average yet her achievement is way below.

If i were you and you can find the money i would get her assessed.

Pigriver · 16/10/2014 21:22

I never said she was lazy.....
Some are unmotivated as in they are not interested in applying themselves to the task in hand. As you say mummytime there is often a reason for it. Yes that can be dyslexia or other SEN sometimes the child has a different learning style. OP said she was a daydreamer and can be uncooperative she also said she is anxious so it may be a more emotional reason. Some children are simple not ready for more formalised learning yet. There is a reason why other countries don't start school until they are 7.

I was simply saying that instead of blaming the school the OP could be proactive in encouraging the child at home.
I would also second not wasting money an testing but pre-emoting and putting support in place as it can't do any harm.

Idefix · 16/10/2014 21:26

Sorry if I am repeating other posters but want to say it might be quicker to get help outside of the school. Your dd sounds v much like my ds at that age. We went to our gp and asked for a referral to a community paediatrician. From there we were referred to occupational therapy who diagnosed mild dyspraxia but also noted that there was an issue with spatial awareness when copping words down, very slow letters missed and reserved.
It took quite a while but eventually we saw an educational psychologist who diagnosed attention deficit disorder ( no hyperactivity) and Tourette's. Much much later he got his test in school and was found to be dyslexic.
We had the exact problems you describe with DS being kept in at lunchtime etc to finish work - stopped with the letter from ed psych and iep in place. I hope you get some answers soon.

LEMmingaround · 16/10/2014 21:26

Pigriver -you couldn't be more wrong!! A diagnosis has made a MASSIVE difference to my dd.

When we explained to her about the dyslexia her words were "oh mummy, i thought i was just stupid" so now she knows she just has a processing issue and her confidence has rocketed. She still has anxiety but its much better.

To suggest the ops dd is simply unmotivated is really unkind.

Idefix · 16/10/2014 21:27

Ooo typos everywhere! Full of cold!
Copying and reversed...

SuburbanRhonda · 16/10/2014 21:28

In my area a private assessment for dyslexia is around £300. Although having one might put your mind at rest, in practice there is little a school can do over and above what they are probably already doing to support children who struggle with reading and writing.

LEM, you said yourself you have to pay for extra tuition - it's not provided by the school.

It's different at secondary - a student can have a laptop for writing or have extra time in exams or even a scribe, so a diagnosis is worth having then.

Thereistoomuchconfusion · 16/10/2014 21:29

Just want to clarify. I'm not blaming the school. I just want to know what is happening to help her out. I really like her school especially the head of ks1.

I also want to say I'm hugely proud of her. She won an award for being the most polite well mannered child at dinner times, voted by the dinner ladies. She also won citizen of the week for her kindness. She excels in RE and subjects and topics that include how others live. She loves reading about the human body, she loves talking to people about pollution and healthy living. But the basics maths, English and writing she is not good at. And yes it worries the freaking hell out of me and I realise this is probably part if not all of the problem but I cannot switch it off.

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