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To wonder why the Labour Party isn't replacing Ed Milinand

67 replies

Albertatata · 10/10/2014 14:55

Title says it all really. The election in May should really be Labours for the taking, Lib dems are nowhere, conservatives struggling with the UKIP brigade and yet labour just seen to be limping along, not taking the bull by the horns, not really producing much to attract voters in fact seem very detached from their core voters.

I think politics is so uninteresting to many as we are so disconnected from the main parties full of white, male career politicians. Ed is definitely quite uninspiring (although he seems like a lovely man &, intelligent politician) & I don't think he is the right man for the job.

I want to vote Labour, I really do, but good god - come on they do need a kick up the bum.

Any labour MPs out there willing to take over the reins - Harriet, Andy, yvette?

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Albertatata · 10/10/2014 14:57

Oops sorry about the major typo in the title!

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LineRunner · 10/10/2014 14:58

There are defined leadership election rules. It's not that easy.

tryingnottobeannoyed · 10/10/2014 14:59

We are too close to the election now to change leaders.
The should have picked David instead!

sharon56bus · 10/10/2014 15:01

Because they are Brain Dead Morons ...........................

Nancy66 · 10/10/2014 15:06

I think Labour need to lose the next election to sort themselves out

TheTravellingLemon · 10/10/2014 15:06

IMO it's way too close to start all that now. Remember that it's not so simple to ditch a leader and the election of a new one is also a lengthy process. Nope, labour are stuck with Ed this time round, just as LD are stuck with Clegg. I imagine there'll be a lot of movement after the election though.

I know Cameron is unpopular, but I can't imagine ticking a box that would pave the way for Ed to lead this country. I want to say that he is unelectable, but he hasn't got much in the way of competition so who knows.

Rebecca2014 · 10/10/2014 15:08

Too close to the election to change leaders but they made a wrong choice choosing Ed, I love watching his interviews online just to see how awkward he is. The labour conference was embarrassing, forgetting the two most important political issue. If they had a stronger leader, I think they would be the front runners.

harryhausen · 10/10/2014 15:11

I agree. I would like to vote Labour but I just can't with Ed there. Harriet Harman did a fabulous job as stand in when they were deciding on a leader. Her performances at PMQ's were fab. Much better than Ed anyway.

If they had Harriet as leader I'd be much happier although I'm a real floating voter.

ErrolTheDragon · 10/10/2014 15:12

Yup. They've left it way too late. I'm sure there must be a lot of people in the Labour party who are regretting it after that dismal Conference performance - 'forgetting' vital areas in his speech FFS - hardly inspires confidence or makes you inclined to trust him to lead the country.

YeGodsAndLittleFishes · 10/10/2014 15:15

Agree that they should have picked Ed and they will need to sort themselves out with a new leader after elections. I wish I could support Labour more
, but Milliband is so hard to listen to and some of their policies seem poorly thought out, if not poisonous.

Bakeoffcakes · 10/10/2014 15:19

The moment they picked him, they lost the next election IMO.

To me, he sounds like he's reading from a script ALL the time, which is ironic really! He just doesn't seem to have a personality.

harryhausen · 10/10/2014 15:20

YeGods, yes that's it. He is hard to listen to. When I listen it makes me feel inherently embarrassed which isn't a nice feeling.

I'm beginning to honestly honestly think that the Labour Party put there leadership vote crosses next to the wrong Millaband.

FatherReboolaConundrum · 10/10/2014 15:21

Too close to the election and then there's the problem of who you replace him with. I think the problem is less Ed M. himself than the team of mediocrities around him who seem to have no clear idea about the narrative they want his leadership to tell or how to tell it, let alone how to sell actual policies. Alastair Campbell (not that I'm a fan) would have been all over this. I've no idea how to make sense of the fact that senior Labour people obviously thought 'we've got a tough battle to fight - send for Douglas Alexander!' I've run (non-party political) campaigns and the incompetence of the Labour party election strategy team leaves me open mouthed.

But the problem is Milliband, too - the tools you need to climb up a modern party are completely different from those needed to create a popular camapign, develop coherent policies, or connect with ordinary people (including members of your own party). The same is true for Clegg spits or Cameron, neither of whom are liked or respected by their own party membership let alone voters.

livelablove · 10/10/2014 15:23

I dont know his politics or anything, but I think they should replace him with Ioan Gruffudd I think he has a resemblance to Ed in a much better looking way and a nicer speaking voice. They could say Ed has had a makeover and vocal coaching.

Bowlersarm · 10/10/2014 15:25

That's a cunning plan livelablove Grin

TheTravellingLemon · 10/10/2014 15:26

I agree errol and the thing that really bothers me about that conference speech is not so much that he forgot parts of it, more the reasons he decided not to use notes. It's not the 'done thing'. He was under no pressure to memorise the whole thing. Nobody would have commented if he had notes. David Cameron did it years ago, but he's always used notes since.

Such a complete lack of awareness of his own limitations is not a good trait in a leader. Also listening to bad advice. When Itwas suggested as a cheap way to grab headlines, he should have had the sense to say no. He should have realised that this speech was too important to risk for the sake of an impressive feat of memory. Poor judgement all round.

gordyslovesheep · 10/10/2014 15:32

It's too late now - sadly. I didn't vote for him - or his brother so don't blame me!

gordyslovesheep · 10/10/2014 15:33

also though please vote for POLICIES not personalities - a party is so much more than it's leader - if you like the policies vote for the party

or you let other people win

YeGodsAndLittleFishes · 10/10/2014 15:44

Blush * Agree they should have chosen David!

meddie · 10/10/2014 15:46

The problem for me is not just Milliband, though he comes across as exceedingly beige and lacking in any personality whatsoever, its the fact that Labour no longer stands for the left, its tory lite and their policies just dont resonate with me anymore. i want a proper left leaning party that looks out for working voters, not corporations or the rich, who protects workers rights and the NHS, who improves peoples access to affordable housing, whether by increasing social housing stock or implementing rent controls.

hellsbellsmelons · 10/10/2014 15:47

I can't bear his voice.
He's not a leader IMHO, not even close.
To think of him making speaches all the time... oh no!
I wouldn't vote for them just because of him.
It's gonna be a tough decision come next year.

meddie · 10/10/2014 15:47

edit that should have said working class voters* not working voters

Greengrow · 10/10/2014 15:49

Harriet H would be much better. Thankfully they didn't pick her so more chance we get the Tories again.

charleybarley · 10/10/2014 15:53

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VermillionPorcupine · 10/10/2014 15:53

I've always been Labour and the front man/woman has never been that concerning to me...Ed Milliband however completely puts me off. Every time I see him I think of Mr Bean. I just can't take him seriously.

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