To wonder why the Labour Party isn't replacing Ed Milinand

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Title says it all really. The election in May should really be Labours for the taking, Lib dems are nowhere, conservatives struggling with the UKIP brigade and yet labour just seen to be limping along, not taking the bull by the horns, not really producing much to attract voters in fact seem very detached from their core voters.

I think politics is so uninteresting to many as we are so disconnected from the main parties full of white, male career politicians. Ed is definitely quite uninspiring (although he seems like a lovely man &, intelligent politician) & I don't think he is the right man for the job.

I want to vote Labour, I really do, but good god - come on they do need a kick up the bum.

Any labour MPs out there willing to take over the reins - Harriet, Andy, yvette?

Thank god they chose Ed cos it means they have zero chance of winning the election!

Ed Milliband is weak. Ed Balls is dangerous.

Didn't the rank and file Labour people all choose David (Miliband)? It was the idiotic rules they have on Union voting that allowed Ed in, who appeared to only vote for Ed because they thought he was more left wing and therefore more in their favour and more easily influenced. Labour scored a spectacular own goal in choosing the wrong brother and it didn't look good when Ed decided to stand against his clearly more electable and more capable seeming brother. Poor David - he really looked as though he was going to vomit with disappointment, not just for himself but with Labour's chances altogether.

No way am I voting for them. The LibDems have also lost my vote, and I've supported them since 2001. It's going to be Greens for me I think.

You are not voting for Ed Milliband unless you happen to live in Doncaster North.

At the Labour conference he tried giving his own wife a kiss and she was having none of it! really awkward and I felt sorry for him.

I would vote Labour if David Milliband or Harriet Harman were leader. But Ed just doesn't give me any confidence as a leader. He is like Mr Bean.

Ed Balls helped to wreck the economy. Enough said. But he also makes DH swear and go blue with exasperation so I do enjoy watching the bloke spouting his idiotic changing policies.

Ed and Ed. Scary combination. David Milliband - the leader we should have had as an option to be Prime Minister.

Just googled this and found out Miliband's wife is called Justine Thornton, so if Labour do go with my plan to swap Ed for Ioan they could easily swap her with Justine mumsnet. No one would notice as they have the same name. Then after the election Ioan could resign and leave Justine in charge a la Hilary Clinton.

Bring on the SNP in Scotland!

I was told that they couldn't get rid of him till he lost the election. That was their system. Sounds a bit of a daft system to me. I utterly can't stand him. I heard him on TV today saying in the most patronising voice ever from anyone that he wasn't being patronising.

I wonder why the tories don't replace scumeron and the libs replace cleggo.

theyre all as bad as each other.

he's just ... uninspiring. everytime I hear that dull, flat voice I just feel like doing something more exciting. Like eating a fishpaste sandwich. Or trying to get the last dregs out of a ketchup bottle with a knife...

I think people see Labour and just think that they don't offer anything new. All 3 main parties only seem interested in representing the rich or 1%.

I mean the fact that so many Labour politicians are against the mansion tax (which is pretty galling considering in times past Labour were supposed to represent the poor but now represent people with multi-million pound assets) and people remember Blair and NuLabour and how they imported millions of immigrants and how this has pushed up house prices to completely unaffordable levels, means there is a crisis in schools (too many children), NHS is overwhelmed. And Labour are planning to continue to import people (mostly unskilled) when we have a huge infrastructure crisis.

The only reasons they are in favour of unlimited immigration is because they think it will win them more votes and because it satisfies big business who know they will have an endless stream of low paid workers happily subsidied by other taxpayers. Labour should be the party of the people, the poor, not big business and the rich. Even their leader, Miliband, is a complete champagne socialist cliche. Nobody believes in Labour anymore as they don't represent the people they were formed to represent.

Why would anyone want David Miliband as leader. He is just Blair part 2 and look where the first scumbag got us.

Yes he lost the by election by 600 votes and then has a speech saying the Tories are in the ropes.

I don't know whose advising either him or Dave but think they must be UKIP sympathisers

He's a fucking disgrace.

he's many things but he's nothing like Blair!

Said it on the other thread and say it again.

Next may it will be UKIP/Tory alliance.

Labour dead for years like after the foot/kinnock years.

Lib dems just dead.

God help us all

Because it takes a good few years for any political parryw to acknowledge it needs a change. Politicians are deluded.

They do need to ditch him and be firm in what they believe in as no one really knows who labour stands for anymore. Or the lib dems. The Tories - that's easy, the rich.

ukip/tories? hows THAT ever going to work?

I was heartbroken when he was elected leader. David, IMO, would have lead labour far better.

I reckon the party need to accept Ed's going to cock up the election especially if it all comes down to swing voters. Accepting that to change the leadership is a lengthy process is one thing! but quite why he's still strapped to Ed Balls is truly baffling.

I reckon Chuka Umunna is the man to watch after that. He comes across very, very well, and I say that as a Tory voter.

Yeah I agree miliband is so talentless at conveying warmth or understanding and they really have no appealing policies, except not being Tories. The referendum was too close partly because Miliband has so little appeal.

Chuka is a slimy snake tongued arrogant champagne public school educated socialist
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Mumzy for goodness sake none of what you have said has any bearing on his abilities.

Re Ed it's too late to change now. Re how I will personally vote in 2015 it will be entirely based on who is most likely to beat the SNP candidate, which oddly is probably the Lib Dem candidate.

I was so shocked when they chose him, I really thought David had it in the bag. When I first heard about them competing against each other for leadership I giggled to myself and thought 'poor old Ed doesn't have a chance, good on him for trying though...' And then they flaming chose him.

I still can't get my head around it. David is by far the stronger of the two, the best speaker, most charismatic, I would argue also the most intelligent. What were they thinking??? Ed is Gordon Brown number 2 IMO. Good heart, means well but ultimately not up to the PM job.

I will however be voting Labour because in my eyes it's either that or a second hung parliament with a UKIP Tory coalition being the likely outcome .