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AIBU?

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To feel sorry for this woman?

297 replies

Mammanat222 · 05/10/2014 20:01

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2781377/BREAKING-NEWS-Internet-troll-targeted-McCanns-dead-hotel-room-days-fleeing-home.html

OK so her hobby of internet trolling (and her subjects!!) was a bit dodgy BUT I cannot help to feel quite sorry for how she was treated??

AIBU

OP posts:
handcream · 07/10/2014 18:04

She did it I suspect because she thought she wouldnt be found out, I sometimes feel I would like to put something very outragerous and naughty on MN! Something that would have some people up in arms. But I wont....

gentlehoney · 07/10/2014 18:04

Sky news didn't "cover" the story. They created it.

KneeQuestion · 07/10/2014 18:05

Sky news didn't "cover" the story. They created it

Exactly.

Nancy66 · 07/10/2014 18:06

knee - yes of course I have. But not over and over again, day in, day out for three fucking years.

handcream · 07/10/2014 18:11

She wasnt having a good old chit chat about the news, she chose them and targeted them over and over again for years on end.

I really hope this stops people doing this sort of thing. She also chose to take her own life leaving her family to take the consequences.

MiddletonPink · 07/10/2014 18:12

' sky news didn't cover the story they created it '

And?

Had she not written nearly 5000 tweets about the McCanns most of them negative I take it, there wouldn't have been any story to create.

She only had herself to blame for being outed.

gentlehoney · 07/10/2014 18:17

QUOTE
"Both sides want justice for Maddie, but one side passionately believes they are not being told the truth and one side thinks differently. Brenda had also allegedly been putting pressure on the media according to the FB group about alleged peadophiles in Westminster. She was a woman who genuinely believed she was fighting the good fight. This is not what a troll does. UNQUOTE.

Plinkyplonk, both sides fear that the truth has been covered up. Some McCann supporters feel that the incriminating DNA evidence must have been planted ( not that far fetched. Look what happened in the OJ case!) and that the investigation was flawed.

The other side (How horrible to have "sides" when a little girl is missing!) feel that the McCanns behaved suspiciously and have blocked the investigation by not answering the police questions and suppressing a photo-fit.

I do think Mrs Leyland was unnecessarily rude and in my opinion harsh in her views on the McCanns, but I think she meant well, and did not deserve to be exposed in public.

gentlehoney · 07/10/2014 18:21

Quote...' "sky news didn't cover the story they created it '

And?""

End quote.

And they have overstepped the mark.

IComeFromALandDownUnder · 07/10/2014 18:31

Disclaimer: I have never read any tweets from the deceased

Totally agree with the poster above who said getting 'justice for Maddie' will never be achieved by poring over the internet. The mind boggles at the arrogance of some people.

I have seen photo shopped images of the McCanns, questioning everything from their looks, bedroom habits, education credentials...it is beyond disgusting. The reason I have seen a bit of it is I know one of these zealots who spouts bile under the pretence of justice. In reality she has serious MH problems and hates herself. I believe most of the crap she puts out there about them as 'fact' is about herself.

She seems to have dedicated her life to the 'cause' which translates into spending all day, every day, on her laptop with her army of on line supporters. All of her friends/family have long gone NC so I really believe, for her, it fills a gap in her lonely life, gives her a purpose and makes her feel superior as she knows so much more then the rest of us. I honestly don't know how she would cope if the case was finally solved...

MiddletonPink · 07/10/2014 18:32

But had she not written those nasty tweets, all 5000 of them they wouldn't have been able to 'overstep the mark '

She left herself open to all of this.

Bowlersarm · 07/10/2014 18:40

It was definitely a news story. And Sky was doing its job investigating it.

If there wasn't a story it would have fizzled out.

The news is full of people driven to suicide through on line bullies. It's about time these bullies were held to account.

Thebodyloveschocolateandwine · 07/10/2014 18:42

My sympathies are with a bereaved couple who have lost their child and are palpably innocent.

They made a decision that some unknown bastard exploited.

We all have, hand on heart. had that omg moment over their child and ever parent has acted in a way that could have caused harm to our children. That's life. Maddeline was wrong place wrong time

Toddlers drown in family ponds! Is it then ok to call them negligent or worse online and in secret?

It's vile and for some posters to say that aibu is the same is ridiculous.

Bereaved parents here get the upmost sensitivity and help.

Can I add I may actually be the only person on mumsnet who actually has been door stepped by sky news reporters and so was my child.

They were relentless and amoral. They offered children cash to talk about the older children.

They pretended to be councellirs to gain access to our girls.

Shameful.

gentlehoney · 07/10/2014 18:44

But there wasn't 5000 nasty tweets. I only saw one which was possibly libelous and it wasn't about the McCanns.

As she said, she was entitled to her opinions, as long as it wasn't threatening or libelous.

gentlehoney · 07/10/2014 18:49

Bowlersarm, I fully agree about online bullying being stopped but I am not sure if Mrs Leyland was bullying the McCanns because although it was unpleasant, she never contacted them.

It is a shame that when ordinary people complain about online harassment it is usually ignored by site owners and police alike.

MiddletonPink · 07/10/2014 19:02

She didn't have to contact them! If they chose to read her tweets that would have been enough.

They were out there for them to see.

Bowlersarm · 07/10/2014 19:08

Well I don't know honey I feel quite gloomy about it.

I wish she had lived to answer her critics.

I feel desperately sorry for the McCanns. They are living in a hell most of us will thankfully be nowhere near to experiencing.

What evil mind would exploit that? Now we'll never know.

And I still feel 100% about the answer the OP - YABU. I don't feel sorry for her at all. The McCanns yes, the family she left behind, yes.

handcream · 07/10/2014 19:37

I actually went 2 yrs ago to the Mark Warner resort where Maddie disappeared. I had lunch in the tapas bar opposite the room where she was taken. It's like having a bar b q and having a sleeping child upstairs, it was that close.

Thebodyloveschocolateandwine · 07/10/2014 19:44

Bowlersarm

Yes completely agree with your posts

Bambambini · 07/10/2014 21:05

That's where I'm conflicted.

If people are going to devote lots of their time trying to do damage and saying cruel thing after cruel thing about vulnerable people with no thought to how these people may react or feel - then it's hard to sympathise when they get questioned and asked to account for what they choose to say online in public.

But, I also hate the way the media works and manipulates with no thought to the damage they are doing so don't always like or agree with their tactics.

DaddyBeer · 07/10/2014 21:08

I don't feel sorry for that woman at all.

She wrote what she wrote because she confused anonymity with immunity.

Ultimately, she topped herself because she couldn't face the shame of exposure. And only her conscience made her do that.

Know thyself.

temporaryusername · 07/10/2014 22:01

^She wrote what she wrote because she confused anonymity with immunity.

Ultimately, she topped herself because she couldn't face the shame of exposure. And only her conscience made her do that.

Know thyself.^

You are totally speculating here DaddyBeer, to be fair. You don't know why she wrote what she did or why she killed herself, none of us do.

temporaryusername · 07/10/2014 22:02

Italics fail, that was my attempt to quote, sorry.

DaddyBeer · 07/10/2014 22:18

temp you are absolutely right. To be honest, I don't know much about it, and I also don't really want to. But my post was just my gut feel based on the little I do know. I still don't feel sorry for her, but I do appreciate you not flaming me for speculating.

temporaryusername · 07/10/2014 23:21

I know what you mean, I haven't been keeping up with this thread tbh or reading much of the news. I know I should but it is all just so depressing.

glampinggaloshes · 08/10/2014 00:38

Pretty sad really. Lots of people in all walks of life have pretty horrid views. Broadcasters, DM journalists. Politicians. She may even have been depressed. Tragic that it led to a loss of life. A family without a mother. Future grandchildren who will never know their nanna. I really don't think anyone really would want someone dead, bully,depressive or otherwise. I think it reflects more on troubling amoral, faceless.unaccountable social media that frankly sucks most of us in one way or another