To ask smokers to move away from station entrance?

[PinkyAndTheBump]

I don't like walking through a cloud of smoke to get into station. It's a small station, with single entrance on this side of tracks - like double French doors, so no other alternative.

Would it be unreasonable to request Greater Anglia to mark out a hashed yellow "no-smoking" area there? It's not as if it actually provides them any shelter from the weather than standing elsewhere, and don't get me started on the litter of their stubs!

I've tried (politely) asking smokers not to stand right by the entrance, but just get verbal abuse back!

Oh yes, and Lynx makes me wheeze, and I don't even have chronic asthma. Also those Lush shops (is that what they're called?), they absolutely stink. I could never go in one, I think I'd suffocate.

If you think perfume inhalation has no health concerns then all I can say you're terribly lucky not to be one of the one in 20 people suffering from of perfume allergy. Well done you.

Stats are in fact between 1.7-4.1% depending on which of a number of common perfume ingredients you are talking about. And that is not just perfume in the sense of something people wear, but includes perfume used in household products, shampoos etc.

And of course it's a non-argument. The fact that you can point to something other than smoke that causes health problems doesn't mean that smokers shouldn't be asked to be considerate.

I don't think I've every stood beside someone at a bus stop who took out a bottle of perfume or aftershave and started spraying it all over themselves, allowing it to choke other people as well. I would find that just as annoying as someone smoking beside me.

But smoking outdoors is being considerate, no?

Y.N.B.U but then neither are the smokers. They've got to stand somewhere. I suppose.

I don't think OP is disagreeing with that. She is simply proposing that they be asked to stand somewhere where they are less likely to cause problems for other people. Seems to me the height of reasonableness.

I'm a smoker don't say a fucking work ok!

I am respectful I don't smoke in doorways or bus shelters etc there's no need when you can walk a few meters out of the way.

But...

Some non-smokers go over the top though. It's my choice to smoke and I try to be as respectable as I can (really I do!) but sometimes nothing is good enough.

I respect others choices even if that means I'm gagging on their perfume etc.

I don't drive.
My primary asthma trigger is pollution.
I wish drivers would be more considerate and not drive their narsty fume belching machines near my drive, as I have to walk down it to get home....

I don't think people are objecting to having to stand close to smokers who reek of stale smoke (horrible though that is), but to them actually smoking around and blowing smoke on other people. So I'm not sure where the perfume comparison comes in.

vintage

I have at shelters on buses and even in changing rooms in shops

Well that's not on, anymore than smoking around other people is.

Yanbu. It is a public space for all. If the smokers move down a few metres, then you have the choice whether to breathe in their smoke. If they stand in the doorway, everyone is forced to breathe it in. When I was pregnant the smell made me extremely nauseous. Now I have a baby I hate carrying her through a cloud of harmful, nasty smelling chemicals. The world would be a nicer place if people could be more considerate of how their actions affect other people.

The smell of smoke clings to you in a way perfume and aftershave don't. It is really revolting to smell. If you smoke, please do realise that most non smokers find your smell nauseating.

I do sometimes wonder if heavy smokers realise how bad they smell.

In fact, not only do car fumes cause worsening of symptoms for some people with respiratory disease, they also contain carcinogens.

If people are serious about not walking through fag smoke, because of the health repurcussions, thay should be equally as vocal in opposing car drivers, surely?

They don't vintage ! They can't smell anything!

"Yanbu. It is a public space for all."

for smoker too

not a matter of health. Just a matter of stink and filth.

smokers; you reek and you make a filthy mess. You know it, we know it. Try to be arsed to walk downwind and somewhere out of the way. Go on - put one foot in front of the other while you still have breath to do it.

yes, too much perfume honks as well but at least perfume wearers don't wave the bottles in people's faces.

Anyone?

Or is it ok to carry on about smokers polluting your airspace, then jump in your car?

The thing is, scrambledeggs, that nothing is good enough precisely because it is impossible to smoke in the vicinity of other people without it affecting them. Non-smokers actually compromise a lot - we have to run the gauntlet of all those desperate little groups puffing away outside office doors, under bus shelters, outside hospitals etc, to say nothing of dealing with all the cigarette butts underfoot, but generally we tolerate it or find a way round it.

And the classic "Look over there" argument so much in evidence on this thread simply doesn't work. It's irrelevant that cars produce pollution or that people might dislike body odour or perfume smells. None of that justifies smoking where you know it will cause problems for other people, especially when you think that smoking is, in reality, one of the most ridiculous activities known to man.

Cars serve a useful purpose, are used by the vast majority of the population and it would be totally impractical to ban them.

They also don't make my hair and clothes stink, my eyes sting and my stomach turn.

Blardy smokers. Why don't they just go and smoke in pubs like they used to, away from the rest of us. Oh......

I love a good smoking thread. Let's kill them all! I'm an ex-smoker. Don't understand all the ire. Just move along.

Mwahahaha jux

FOILED.

I could smell the pollution when I last went to the city.
Cars do stink.

I'm sure we had an identical AIBU

is there any difference between these two entrances? Exactly the same smoker v non-smoker verbal punch-ups conversation, ahem.

Fine, if we want to go through the rigmorole aaaaaawlll over again, I can just re-hash / upcycle what I said last time.

Oh bugger, I can't remember what I said last time
Oh damn, I shouldn't use the word 'hash', should I...

I'll get my hat and coat

Okay then, lobby to have them banned the way non smokers lobbied to have smoking in public places banned. If you have a strong and justifiable argument and can prove that it wouldn't be to the detriment of society, I am sure you would have a good case.