To think that ten days later the "no voters are selfish", "no voters are stupid", "no voters betrayed Scotland", "no voters are forcing us to pay for war", comments should have abated a bit?

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Seriously, am still seeing a flood of bile on my TLs against no voters - no attempts at reconciliation. I'm going to have to block or mute people I thought were reasonable, as it's just not stopping.

I totally get that people are seriously disappointed, and that's going to be expressed for a while, but it seems that nobody in the country can get a hangnail without a yes voter posting about it with a "ARE YOU HAPPY NOW, YOU STUPID, SELFISH NO VOTERS??11!!" comment.

Thing is, if there was another referendum tomorrow, is it really the best way to change people's minds by constantly calling them stupid, selfish, gullible, betratyrs of the Scottish people, unScottish, etc etc etc?

Weirdly enough, I'm not seeing anything at all from no voters on my TL - nothing either positive or negative. They've all (in my corner of the internet, at least) all gone to ground.

Don'tDrink, as far as I'm aware the miscounting thing has been investigated and laid to rest. There are still investigations ongoing into a statement made by Ruth Davidson made about seeing the outcome of postal votes and allegations of fraud concerning 10 ballot papers in Glasgow.

"whinging Jock-ism at its worst." What is Jock-ism? Please explain.

But yes, lets forget this was the biggest democratic decision made in Scotland's history. Lets get back to apathy straight away, so that our Facebook feeds don't get clogged up by people who are desperate for real political change.

had people putting that the air strikes in Middle East were down to No Voters!
hello? Even if it had been a YES vote, Scotland wouldn't have been independent until 2016 and the Armed Forces still belong to the UK. To say nothing of the Scottish MPs who were part of the majority who voted FOR the strikes!

Slagging off no voters isn't going to bring 'real political change' though misskelly. It's only going to piss people off.

And yes, it was the biggest democratic decision made in recent Scottish history, and the decision was no.

But yes, lets forget this was the biggest democratic decision made in Scotland's history.

And it's being dogged by people who can't accept the result of that democratic decision.

The quickest, easiest way to ensure a return to apathy is to make the political arena nasty and full of insults and bile. If you really want people to stick with taking part in politics, you have to take some of the viciousness out of the arguments.

Yes, I agree that there is no need to be offensive or rude to people who decided to vote no. Equally, i have seen abuse and sneering towards yes voters too.

I don't think you can expect yes voters to shut up and get back in their box. Especially when the no vote did not close the matter, many promises have been made and have yet to be delivered.

Well, I voted yes, and I totally agree with you.
Disgraceful.

had people putting that the air strikes in Middle East were down to No Voters!

No, but I have seen a few like-minded friends disappointed that we did not vote ourselves out of being in this situation in the future.

The No voters are Scotland, and don't let anybody forget it.

Scotland should ask itself why the polls differed from the result significantly, and why there were far fewer No then Yes car-stickers and window-bills. If people were frightened of broken windows or scratched cars, and nervous of saying No even to an anonymous pollster, that is shame on Scotland.

The NO voters are a majority in Scotland, yes, Andrew.
The Yes voters are a rather large minority.

I think the discussion needs to continue.
Disgraceful behaviour by some notwithstanding.

I agree with Yes campaign was more vociferous and in some quarters quite intimidating - not something I agree with or condone. I know of Yes voters who were intimidated too. Many people have not covered themselves in glory in this campaign.
But that should not distract from where Scotland is going now?

Is it ok to be bothered that politicians have not lived up to the promises that were made?
It is hard to move on with parties who have, quite frankly, lied to swing the vote their way. If you say you would have voted no regardless, surely you are still a tiny bit bothered that the people running the UK have no integrity?

I'd say as a rule it's ruddy hard a find any politician with integrity. I certainly don't get sincerity and integrity off Wee Eck either.

I'm deeply bothered about the integrity of all politicians. But a no vote wasn't a vote for the ConDems or current policy. It was a vote against making a huge, irreversible change that would have unknown consequences for everybody in Scotland.

Iggi999 its eleven days since the referendum during which Parliament has sat one day and that for another purpose. A bit soon to say that the politicians have not kept their promises?

The way I see it, everyone exercised their right to vote. The votes were counted and the majority voted 'No'. If it had gone the other way we would have had to accepted it. For some reason the 'Yes' voters can't. They had their vote, they cast it and it didn't go their way. I'm sick of hearing their criticism of people who voted differently.

Timetable to be published the next day, iirc? Promises were very quickly made, there was no need for a sitting of parliament at that point.
The linking of increased powers for Scotland with devolution for England (which Labour can't support) also undermines any potential progress in this area.

I do think David Cameron has played a blinder on this one.

I voted no Iggi999 and I don't believe that the No campaign covered themselves in any glory, if anything the No's won despite their efforts.

The turnout was extremely high and even as a No voter I'd have to be blind not to notice the desire for change. Having said that I didn't vote or want any change so I'm glad that the "promise"s are going to have to go through normal due process, which is after all what parliaments meant to be there for, or politicians could put through anything they wanted.

I'm from NI originally and I have to say, barring a bit of violence which seemed to have been provoked by idiots flaunting around in Union Jack flags in the middle of Glasgow, I feel that the majority of Scottish people have taken the results of the referendum in their stride.

Oh yes it's dull. So far I have scrolled on down - but I may have to hide a few soon - try again in a month or so.

i don't know anybody who voted No because of the promise of extra devolved powers from Westminster. I don't regret nor feel ashamed for voting No, despite the various posts on facebook telling me I should. I've not deleted any of these people because I really don't give a flying fuck what they think but I need to work with them.

Applauds needthesunshine!

I voted no because I didn't get whipped up into the mob mentality of "sod the English" that was prevalent in this area, the SNP white paper didn't give me the answers I was looking for, Wee Eck is as self serving as the rest of them, and I am happy to be a "true/real" Scot whatever that means as it's been bandied around enough who is also happy to be British. I don't think having our own government will bring around miraculous change.

i don't know anybody who voted No because of the promise of extra devolved powers from Westminster.

I don't either. Everyone I know who cared to share their voting intention voted 'No' and intended on doing so way before the promise of extra devolved powers.

I'm glad the outcome was 'No'. I'm sad a lot of people didn't get what they wanted, but that was the result. Calling people names for not agreeing with your point of view is childish.

Yes, its definitely going on, but the only part of it I see personally is on Facebook. And its easy to over-estimate on there I think, because some of the most fervent supporters tend to post multiple times per day about it. I have no idea how they hold down jobs! But the fact that they post so much propaganda makes it seem more - which I guess is the intention.

I'm really shocked at some of them. For instance, I know two nurses who post this stuff constantly, and I had previously thought them quite balanced, sensible people. But they are totally obsessed with the idea that they are part of the oppressed minority they call "the '45".

I've had to delete two of the worst of them. It was just utterly constant, and every time I posted anything myself, they would find a way to make a comment on my post about Scottish independence, even when it was a completely random and unrelated topic!

I yield to no-one in thinking that Cameron et al were duplicitous bastards over this, but Salmond was also a duplicitous bastard. I think that plenty of people who voted know share my opinion of Cameron, and plenty of people who voted yes similarly share my opinion of Salmond. If we think that everyone who voted for anything in a referendum is entirely at one with the career politicians who voted in the same way as them, we'll never get anywhere.

Calling people names for not agreeing with your point of view is childish.

Coulnd't agree more.