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to want ^Typical English^ tourist spots to have English people serving you?

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IwantJoansbag · 13/09/2014 09:20

I expect to get flamed for this and called all-sorts, but I don't care.
I'm genuinely curious.

We went out for the day yesterday and stopped off at 3 well-known English tourist spots.
Glastonbury, Cheddar and Wells. (with a little stop off at a pretty little 'supposedly' English market-garden type place - selling Strawberries, Plums, etc) plus we stopped off at an outlet village.

It just seemed wrong that at EVERY place we stopped we were served by Eastern Europeans. I didn't hear ONE English accent (except in the shops), but all the eateries and stalls.... foreign accents.

If I go to a Beer Festival in Germany, its nice to be served by somebody with a German Accent - it adds to the atmosphere.
If I were to go to New York and eat in China Town - its great if the majority of people are Chinese.
Stopping off in a typical Italian Pizza place and the people are mainly Italian! You expect a bit of authenticity.

So, is it too much to ask the same happens in England?
It must be disappointing for the tourists when they come here.

For the record:- I am ONLY talking about typical tourist spots and I've got nothing against people coming to our country to work, but I think that some places (tourist spots where you expect things to be traditional) they should have mainly English people dealing with the public.

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Terrierterror · 13/09/2014 09:59

You're absolutely right. It adds to the overall experience. I was particularly unimpressed by the quality of the cockney chimney sweeps the last time I visited London.

Perfectlypurple · 13/09/2014 09:59

Surely as we are now a multi cultural society having people from different cultures and races does epitomise English society?

LEMmingaround · 13/09/2014 10:00

What genuinely puzzles me is zizzis. All the staff are italian (and lovely) or do they revert to estuary english when out of earshot? I love that our culture is diverse.

IwantJoansbag · 13/09/2014 10:00

Terrierterror, that sounds amazing! I must go there.

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DrankSangriaInThePark · 13/09/2014 10:00

When I worked in Liverpool we used to go to an Italian restaurant every payday.

The staff there were all Spanish.

to want ^Typical English^ tourist spots to have English people serving you?
Celticlass2 · 13/09/2014 10:00

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Besom · 13/09/2014 10:01

Somerset isn't mainly like Somerset?

IwantJoansbag · 13/09/2014 10:02

I was wondering when the lazy lets pull out a Nigel Farage quote would appear.
Give your self a Gold Star Sangria!

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KatieKaye · 13/09/2014 10:02

How do you know that those people serving you were not "English", by virtue of changing their nationality? Or doesn't that count?
If it is only accents that count in your book, would you have been equally disappointed by being served by Welsh or Scottish people?
Your analogy with Italian pizzas etc is rather superficial - do shoppers in GAP (for example) expect to only be served by Americans?
How sad to see a post advocating racism on the grounds of "authenticity". the reality is that England is home to people of many different nationalities.
(I've never noticed that decent service is an English speciality anyway.)

Terrierterror · 13/09/2014 10:02

m.youtube.com/watch?v=BGCmVDl46rY

LEMmingaround · 13/09/2014 10:02

Roseforme - crossed posts with you. I knew it!!!!!Grin

AuntieStella · 13/09/2014 10:02

Nobody would ever agree what was a 'typical' spot, or acceptable accent.

If course it's unworkable. But just as I've dressed up in a theme costume to waitress, which of course was utterly unnecessary for the actual job, looking to all aspects to create an "experience" if that is what you are selling (or trading on) is unexceptional.

Accent is not synonymous with race, nor is it a fixed characteristic. And I suspect that perceived class is likely to be a factor too (depending on what the tourist site actually is)

LouiseBourgeoise: thanks - you said far more clearly what I meant.

IwantJoansbag · 13/09/2014 10:02

Don't agree with someone?
Call them a troll (yawn)

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WidowWadman · 13/09/2014 10:02

Notacs - doesn't necessarily make you a racist (unless you think that skin colour has anything to do with nationality, which it doesn't), but definitely a xenophobe.

BreeVDKamp · 13/09/2014 10:04

I grew up in Cheddar and am v surprised by this - I don't know of any Eastern European community in either cheddar or wells! Not that it would be a bad thing at all, fair is fair. Perhaps if you went there on a Saturday instead you would have heard more English accents as all the school kids work up the gorge and would have been in school in the week. Wells market seems to only have English traders? Curiouser and curiouser!

Bakeoffcakes · 13/09/2014 10:04

Gosh what a knob you are.

By your logic all the people you encountered would have been white too. But I bet you wouldn't have dared to start a thread stating that.

Kundry · 13/09/2014 10:04

I love that you wanted a 'typical English experience' and then ordered a donut and an Americano.

Tudor England was also awash with outlet villages, I'm sure.

LEMmingaround · 13/09/2014 10:05

I dont think you are a troll. Sadly i believe you are a po faced daily msil reading closet ukip voter. Id rather be a troll.

Seriously dont post goady threads and expect decent people to agree with you and not call you out on your offensive posts.

BreeVDKamp · 13/09/2014 10:06

OOPS

RTFT Bree!

DrankSangriaInThePark · 13/09/2014 10:07

Maybe if we all revert to Ye Olde Englishe and stick suppurating plague boils on our profile pics ye olde nasty OP will fuck off?

Thank ye kindly for the gold star OP. I understand people like you have always had a penchant for pinning stars on people.

I shall wear mine with pride.

gamerchick · 13/09/2014 10:09

I know where you're coming from OP but unfortunately you're not allowed to discuss stuff like that lest you get your head stamped on.

People who holiday here from other countries should be served by English people, that is all English people from whatever race and culture in the main touristy bits there is nothing racist about that. Being served by poor speaking English immigrants just shows we have no identity anymore tbh.

Besom · 13/09/2014 10:09

I live in a tourist town which manages to provide a pretty 'authentic' experience I think, despite the significant and longstanding community of English people who live here.

HauntedNoddyCar · 13/09/2014 10:09

You big silly. You went to actual real Somerset when you should have gone to Somersetshire World.

Seriously it's all economics and demographics and we say we want service but we sure as hell don't like paying for it.

Whiskwarrior · 13/09/2014 10:10

I live in Dorset and have found that people from my part don't like people from another part (20 minutes away) and the accent is different. So which of those camps is 'more authentic'?

Likewise, I'm from Birmingham but Black Country has a stronger accent. Who better represents the West Midlands?

Stuff like this is why your ideas are xenophobic. You're not interested in genuine English accents (because most people only have stereotypical stuff in mind anyway), just against foreigners working here.

Stop trying to dress up your repellant ideas as anything else OP.

Notacs · 13/09/2014 10:11

I'm fairly certain I'm not xenophobic.

My concerns are related to the extra strain on employment, NHS and educational resources. I'd feel the same concern if suddenly every woman of child bearing age started having six or seven children rather than two or three (and some none.)

Obviously we have no control over how many children a woman chooses to have but the extra strain it would put on resources would concern me, but immigration is something we should have more control over.

It isn't anything to do with the fact they are from another culture - that would be xenophobic.