About open windows

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I'm in a standoff situation here. I feel the heat and really suffer if a room is too hot, I've opened the window.

Person next to me is claiming they're cold (yet strangely refuses to put more layers on) and getting irate about said window being open and insisting it's shut

AIBU to think people who suffer in the heat should get priority over window openings as you can always add layers but it's not always practical to take them off

Full expecting to be told IABU here!

Yabu. I've tried wearing jumpers and scarves when people insist on having the windows and doors open. I'm still cold and people moan and tell you you must be hot why are you wearing that. They seem offended that I'm wearing a jumper.
Use a fan. Most works don't moan about them like they do a heater. Wear light clothes and use a fan. It's not hot out anymore.

Does depend a bit
As others have said above.
Surely it doesn't need to be an either / or situation - other person could be in a draft which will be uncomfortable. You need to look at rearranging the furniture to see if that helps, yes, suggest more layers if that's a possibility, and yes, look at getting a fan for your hot flushes when it makes the other person uncomfortable to have the window open.

My work place wouldn't let me moved. I was always in the draft. They also moaned if I put my coat on and wearing multiple jumpers wasn't smart enough. I'd get bollocked for using the portable heater unless it was December. So I had to freeze so people could have 'fresh air' it isn't any fresher... It's just colder.

I'm almost always cold and I think YANBU.

I think yanbu. I hate being hot. I also try to fling the windows open for a bit a day even if it's -30.

Agree. It's not just about temperature anyway - it's about having fresh air. I'd rather be a little cold and have some fresh air than be warm in a fug.

Tricky - are there only 2 of you in the office? If more get a consensus. I tend to broadly agree with you though - it is hard to do anything about being too hot, unless you are wearing a jumper or jacket you can take off, and sitting at work sweating is hideous, especially when there is a window you could open. Can you or your cold colleague sit elsewhere? It can get too hot even on a mild day if the office is all glass windows and stores heat like a greenhouse (I used to teach in a classroom like that, and the windows only opened a tiny sliver in case the kids decided to leap out it was very unpleasant in the afternoons).

The air isn't fresher. Rooms are not vacuums.

The air is fresher- it's come from outside and you're not breathing air someone else recently exhaled. If the room was a vacuum there would be no air at all, fresh or otherwise.

YABVU. Why should "hot" people always get priority? I've suffered this problem for the majority of my working life. I feel the cold and always get stuck in a cross draught between other people's must-have-open windows.

I've also heard the argument trotted out again and again that if you are cold you can put more on. I have sat in the office wearing a T shirt, long-sleeved T shirt, cardigan and fleece, with a blanket over my knees, and had people ask if I'm not well .

When you have to sit in the same place for most of the day a draught from an open window can chill you right through. Once my hands get really cold then I can't feel them either.

chesterberry I had a similar colleague who wore a jacket every day then opened the window the second she got in.

I also find that people won't ask around if it's OK to open the window (so people don't get a chance to object) but when you ask them to shut it you get loads of moaning. (I once shut a window when the person who'd opened it went home, having been frozen for 4 hours, only to get abuse from her colleague for having the cheek to shut "their" window).

The amount of air a person breathes is a tiny fraction of what is in the room and seeing as rooms are not sealed shut there is always air exchange from other places anyway. The air isn't fresher it just feels colder.

I know it's a tiny fraction and the room isn't sealed- but I work in a school and by the time you've had 30 children and 2 other adults all breathing, sweating, burping and farting into the same air space for several hours, the air coming in through the window certainly smells fresher!

Yanbu.

I can't stand fleeing hot as I sweat so easily.

YABU. I really feel the cold and hate it when fuckers open the window because they're hot. I'd glue them all shut if I could!

Yanbu - and I am always the cold one!!

OP Lucky both of you to have opening windows to quarrel over.

The air-con in my building produces hot spots and cold spots, and of course the types who feel the cold are always where it is cold and vice versa. We are open plan but the blowers come on and off in no predictable fashion so even the early birds like me who have the pick of the desks are uncomfortable for part of the day. Sod air-con.

Opening the windows does make a difference because it changes the humidity. I'll often drive with the heater on for warmth and open the windows a bit as I find the warm air too dry for comfort. I've worked in schools where the HT has aked for windows to be opened in the winter to stop the rooms being too humid and stuffy to try to reduce the spread of colds.

I layer for work as the rooms get too cold when you're alone, then too hot when the rooms are in use. I think my record is vest, shirt, v-neck jumper, cardigan, coat. Wriggling cold fingers and toes boosts the circulation and warms them up. Nothing much helps a cold drippy nose though.

Generally, it's easier to plan to warm up than cool down. If someone is clearly making an effort to dress to their needs, then I'm more sympathetic. People refusing to adjust their clothing and making requests that inconvenience others, I'm not sympathetic to.

YANBU. I'm in the UK and everything revolves around people who feel the cold. Put some more clothes on ffs.
This time of year particularly annoys me when people go on about how cold it is. No it's not cold, it's just a bit less warm than it has been and we don't need the heating on full blast thank you very much.
FWIW, unnecessary artificial heating in public places e.g. shops, theatres makes me feel physically sick.

Fuck, I'd love to have a window. I share an office (no window) with a girl that loves to have fan on. It blows all documents on my desk everywhere and it really annoys me. She even has the bastard fan on when she's not there

The thing I find interesting about this thread is that people who don't feel the cold don't understand at all how it feels to be a person who is often cold. All the 'put more clothes on' comments miss the point - because for the person who is cold that often doesn't solve the problem. (Obviously not referring here to the daft idiots who sit in a t-shirt moaning).

It is just as unreasonable as someone who feels the cold saying "well wear a vest top and shorts then". Cold fingers, toes, noses.... needing a fleece to feel comfortable.

I know I feel the cold and I know I need to compromise. I wear quite a few layers for most of the winter and I try and plan my wardrobe to allow me to be comfortable at the same temperature as others. The attitude that being too cold is easily solveable but being too hot isn't is unfair. Both sides need to compromise.

Oh, and being directly in a draught makes me feel really ill on a cold-ish day. I agree with those who've said it's not just temperature.

I work in a big open plan office and I am surrounded by women at a certain stage in life who are experiencing 'tropical moments'. All the windows are open and they've all got bloody fans. I'm always freezing and chasing paperwork being blown around my desk.

If I'm too cold I can't think straight, feel sleepy and shivery.

I do dress for warmth, and drink warm drinks, but sat still all day I can sink into a chilled stupor.

This is out of the control of anyone I share an office with though, as we are "climate controlled" remotely.

I'm a bit of both. I feel the cold terribly. But stuffy rooms give me migraines. (Perfume and humidity levels are both big triggers)

So I can see both sides. My solution?

I sit with the window open for fresh air. And a fleece and Bob Cratchitt stylee fingerless gloves. I am truly a style guru.

Mrsmook your headteacher needs to do some learning and stop opening the windows in winter! The reason colds spread much more easily in winter is because the virus lives longer in cold air. Keep them closed!