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Do we have to give up our puppy? urgent advice please.

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SunshineDaisiesButterMellow · 09/09/2014 14:13

We got a gorgeous puppy yesterday. She slept on the floor of my room. My ds 16 months sleeps with me.

This morning ds had a small hive on his forehead. Later when napping on his cheeks came out. 20 mins later all gone.

They were playing downstairs and outside together for about 2 hours. Ds was fine. Now I brought him back to bed for a nap he is raised in hives on his face again.

We have been looking after pils dog for a week and ds was fine. But nothing has changed, food/ laundry, he's fine in himself, except the puppy.

Dd and ds will be gutted if we have to give up the pup but ds comes first obviously. But do you think it's definitely the pup?
Can he be allergic to pup but not pils dog?

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Branleuse · 09/09/2014 19:18

check that its definitely the dog. See how baby is when nearer the dog.
If its definitely the dog, then id call the breeder and get them to take him back, before you get even more attached

icymaiden · 10/09/2014 00:05

vegancow you are spectacularly missing the point.You are not a vulnerable baby are you?
A baby should never be left unsupervised with a dog (and if you are asleep you are not supervising)

mummymeister · 10/09/2014 00:18

sorry sunshine but if you really suspect the puppy then please get rid of it. mild symptoms can very rapidly become not mild and if these develop it will cause your child life long problems. please rehome this puppy sooner rather than later and watch your child around other animals to see whether it is one breed/type that sets them off. i am allergic to different breeds of dogs not all dogs.

this idea of leave them they will get used to it is really not good advice don't risk a full blown asthma attack before you will take action on this. agree totally with icymaiden. whether your dc is in bed with you or not you are asleep. you are not actively supervising your child with this puppy.

Branleuse · 10/09/2014 10:25

hives are really sore and uncomfortable. Puppies are nice and cute but if your baby is allergic, then thats not the one for you, no matter how pretty the puppy is or how much you wanted one

VeganCow · 10/09/2014 10:43

Branleuse, I am not missing the point.
I had my dogs before I had my children. And they were not banished from the bedroom when the babies came along.

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SunshineDaisiesButterMellow · 10/09/2014 10:47

Thanks again for taking the time to read and comment.

I was going to wait one day and see if anything changed. I stripped down the bed, changed the bedding, hovered upstairs thoroughly. And the dog slept in the bathroom.
Ds has been fine since I did all this yesterday. The last time he had a hive was when I posted this thread.

I had a call back off the doctor this morning who said he doesn't think it's an allergy to the pup as he is not coming out in hives when in contact with the dog ie playing outside & downstairs which he had been doing. But to keep an eye on it.

So will see what he is like the next few days and hopefully it will have been something in the bed.

Have treated puppy with flea treatment too even though I didn't really see any on her.

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Branleuse · 10/09/2014 11:24

it wasnt me that said that vegancow.
My dogs sleep wherever they feel like, including the bed, unless they start snoring.

However, none of my children are allergic to animals.

Im a bit allergic to one of my cats, but not the other, but its my choice to keep him. I wouldnt put that on one of my children necessarily

Shonajay · 10/09/2014 11:41

A lot of breeders will say they've flea treated when they've not. Our dog was deformed when we got,him and OMG he wasn't its always better repeating it. Also, there's a wash called petal cleanse that reduces fur allergens, you may find he's very full of allergens as he's been with other dogs in a doggy house. I'd try the wash first, and repeat flea and worm treatment you'll need to,treat the house too. Get your products from the vets they're stronger and don't let and asthmatic child in the house while you treat ventilation is essential.

TreadSoftlyOnMyDreams · 10/09/2014 12:04

Have you changed washing powder, smothered yourself in a new moisturizer before bed or put your DC to bed in new unwashed PJ's ? Lots of reasons for a breakout rather than the pup.

I'd def keep a dog downstairs though - we moved into a flea infested house and it was deeply unpleasant. All the bites were at neck/face level for our 18mo [they can hop to about waist height]. Horrible. If you avoid letting pets upstairs you'll massively reduce your headache if they ever get fleas.

jopickles · 10/09/2014 12:41

my daughter gets raised red patches all over her hands, arms and legs but only very randomly and 1 or 2 at a time and a doctor has told us its just one of those things so it might not be allergy related anyway

VeganCow · 10/09/2014 13:14

Branleuse oops I apologise! It was icymaiden I meant to address that to.
I too am allergic to cats, and like you, choose to keep them and suffer the (thankfully occasional) itchy swollen eyes and sneezes, but wouldnt make anyone else suffer it too.

kentishgirl · 10/09/2014 13:17

VeganCow - My last dog always slept in bed with me (great footwarmer) but I still wouldn't consider it safe to have a dog, any dog, sleeping in the same bedroom as a small child. Tiny risk, but still an easily avoided risk.

OP - hope you work out the source of the hives, if Doc has said probably not the pup then you'll have to keep trying to find something else. Could be something that comes and goes pretty quickly.

WellnowImFucked · 10/09/2014 13:22

Re:Fleas.

Girl Cat has flea saliva allergy, so you know the second she picks one up and seems to be very vulnerable to them considering how rarely shes goes out.

Bot cat is a roamed and has never had them, though I treat him too.

The reason I'm telling you this is on the 2 occasions I didn't treat in the speed of light I got bit to hell, never touch OH.

They seem to be like mosquitoes and prefer some people

LumpenproletariatAndProud · 10/09/2014 13:27

OP its likely to be the dogs saliva, of course it could be something else but its clear that its dog related.

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SunshineDaisiesButterMellow · 10/09/2014 13:28

Ds has been in bed for his afternoon nap now for an hour and not had any come out. So I'm very hopeful. If it were fleas though wouldn't they bite rather than hives come out?

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CoolCat2014 · 10/09/2014 15:04

With the hives are you sure nothing else could be to blame? Did he eat anything different?

Just asking cos in the last 12 months I suddenly starting coming out in hives when I eat apples or celery. I've been an avid eater of both all my life, so no idea why it's suddenly come on! Took me a couple months to figure out what it was, but now I react to things containing the smallest amount.

CoolCat2014 · 10/09/2014 15:06

Also want to add that I grew up with cats and a dog and was fine, but after I left my parents house, if I went back to stay with them the same cats would result in me getting wheezy and sneezy (I have asthma). Allergies are odd things IMHO

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SunshineDaisiesButterMellow · 10/09/2014 18:16

The only new ish thing ds has had is a pineapple juice yesterday. But he did have it about a month ago and had no problems.
But with you saying that you suddenly came out with hives CoolCat that's something to think about.

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BalloonSlayer · 10/09/2014 18:18

You never have a problem with something the first time you encounter it. You have got to have it, to develop an allergy to it, to then have the allergic reaction the next time you have it. You can develop an allergy after the first time you encounter something, or after the 1,000th time you encounter something but not before you have encountered something.

Pineapple allergy is much rarer than dog allergy however.

LumpenproletariatAndProud · 10/09/2014 18:24

BalloonSlayer that is absolutely totally not true - you never have a problem with something the first time. its such a dangerous myth.

You absolutely can have a reaction the first time you encounter something.

My child has very strong positive skin prick tests to things he has never eaten.
He went into anaphylactic shock to something that had never crossed his lips before.

On the other hand you can eat something 836527 times and then become allergic to it.

Allergies are confusing swines. I hate them.

LumpenproletariatAndProud · 10/09/2014 18:26

And you are also wrong about pineapple being 'much rarer than dog allergy'.

Pineapple allergy is actually a rather common allergy.

Out of interest, where have you got your allergy information from?

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 10/09/2014 18:30

Hives can be tricky fuckers. They can take hours to come out and then come and go for a bit. Can make it a bit trickier to track down what's causing them.

I would think about the pineapple juice as the obvious culprit, but don't rule out the dog just because he doesn't get hives when in close contact with it.

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SunshineDaisiesButterMellow · 10/09/2014 18:31

I didn't know that BalloonSlayer, that's good to know.

I'm wracking my brains to think of what else it might be
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gentlehoney · 10/09/2014 18:34

I was allergic to our puppy until I washed the breeder's perfume off him.

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SunshineDaisiesButterMellow · 10/09/2014 18:35

Didn't refresh the page..

It's really tricky as this is the first time ds has had a reaction. Dh , dd and me have never had any allergies so am a novice.

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