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ExitPursuedByAKoalaBear · 31/08/2014 21:29

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SignYourNameInBrownAndFlame · 03/09/2014 21:32

Thanks Albadross. I've seen quite a few JD/PS that asked for "excellent written and verbal communication" but I used to work in business analysis where it was common to employ offshore contractors who didn't have English as a first language for the build process, so the BAs were expected to have very accurate and precise written language skills in order to ensure standardisation and minimise confusion or ambiguities.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 03/09/2014 23:18

I guess it depend what you mean by 'excellent communication' (or 'excellent written and spoken English, which is what I often see). It might not mean 'perfect SPAG'.

I'm not saying this to be chippy, just I am guessing whoever hired me either overlooked typos or assumes that they don't detract too much.

SignYourNameInBrownAndFlame · 04/09/2014 02:37

I don't disagree with you LRD, I was just offering my experience. I think the phrase "excellent written skills" and its fellows is still sometimes (often?) interpreted as "near-perfect SPAG" inasmuch as I suspect many recruiters do still make the value judgements expressed in this thread and see spelling errors (wrongly) as indicative of wider personality "flaws".

OTOH there is a small number of jobs where frequent and repeated errors could have a significant adverse impact on the end result, and my BA experience was one of them; because of the time difference, most of our communication with our sub-contractors took place in writing and because we were producing technical business specification documentation, a misplaced homophone or the equivalent of the averse/adverse confusion I mentioned above, or even a missing "not" could change the whole sense of a requirement. The culture of one of the sub-contracting firms we used was not to challenge us - we were their client and so seen as always right - and so they would take our requirements at face value and produce exactly what we had written. Incorrectly expressed requirements cost money in terms of lost time and rework, that was the bottom line. And while anyone can make a mistake, someone who repeatedly and frequently made mistakes which added unnecessary cost to the projects would, in that precise scenario, be seen as a liability. That's not to suggest they were stupid or lazy, just that their skill in written English was not at a sufficiently high standard for the demands of that particular role, in the same way they would be judged if their analytical skills or stakeholder management skills were deficient.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 04/09/2014 21:07

Oh, absolutely - I was going off on a tangent rather than anything else. Sorry not to make that clear.

I do agree there are some jobs where it's just non-negotiable. My issue is with SPAG being used as a predictor of broad ability.

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